This is the best country in the world
JH
You're not wrong there... and one of these fine days, the good Doctor and I plan to move to your country. We both LOVE it. And my closest friends are all Canadians and I miss them something awful!
Brit
ok, if i came to your country (usa, canada, france, holland, oz....wherever) what should someone experience or sample before they leave....to give them a true taste of your homeland.
limit it to 5 per post....if you can.. i'll start with england/britain.. english ale, the lake district (england), to get a true taste of england visit the city of bath (or maybe stratford, though a bit too touristy), sample some black pudding (blood sausage .
c'mon you patriots!!!!.
This is the best country in the world
JH
You're not wrong there... and one of these fine days, the good Doctor and I plan to move to your country. We both LOVE it. And my closest friends are all Canadians and I miss them something awful!
Brit
i just heard george benson on the radio.
got me to thinking - is george benson still an active witness?
I met him once when I was at Bethel. He attended a meeting at the Kingdom Hall... one of the sisters at Bethel's mother was a radio DJ so she brought him along to the meeting. He came with several HEAVY bodygaurds who stood very menacingly at the back of the Hall... caused quite the stir in the congo as you could imagine.
this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
Again I hear you BritBoy. You are just more comfortable in leaving the Organisation/Truth/Jehovah whatever you want to call it, than I am. Good for you. I can and will not rubbish it though. I agree I started this thread and invited opinion, but I just can't do that.
And I am not asking you to rubbish them! I will happilly do that for you! LOL
No, honestly, I understand where you are coming from. I have a friend who feels exactly as you do. She is so close to jumping ship, knows in her heart of hearts it's all bull kakka poo poo, but can't bring herself to diss it in anyway. And will not read these boards or any books on the matter. I guess it's a bit like the whole coming out process. I was TERRIFIED of taking that final leap of faith into the unkown. Good luck, and if ever you want to chat, drop me a pm.
Brit
ok, if i came to your country (usa, canada, france, holland, oz....wherever) what should someone experience or sample before they leave....to give them a true taste of your homeland.
limit it to 5 per post....if you can.. i'll start with england/britain.. english ale, the lake district (england), to get a true taste of england visit the city of bath (or maybe stratford, though a bit too touristy), sample some black pudding (blood sausage .
c'mon you patriots!!!!.
May I reply on behalf of the Canadians?
You have GOT TO try Tim Hortons... their doughnuts are the finest ANYWHERE in the world! Also, their funnel cake is better than the American version!!! Oh, and Niagara on the Lake is STUNNING!!!! LOL
this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
LOL I hear you. But, you still haven't answered my question. How did that make the "Truth" invalid. Like you , I moved away, left, walked away etc......
Ok, here's the deal. No religion on earth can save you... no religion can change your core being... so why are the Witnesses any different? Okay, they promise perfection AFTER the 1000 year reign... so in other words, you have 1000 + however many years they society dictates to overcome your "earthly sins"... JESUS! That's a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time to remain strong and force yourself to behave contrary to your very fibre. And this perfection in the new system is ONLY if you BLINDLY follow the teaches of men just like you and me... THAT is what makes the "troof" invalid for me.
You have a pm by the way!
this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
Britboy..... I'm gay and went out and did my "thing" .......but why does that make the "Truth" invalid?
Because no amount of praying and begging and trying to serve Jehovah took away the FACT that their teaching is that if you so much as look at someone so as to commit fornication in your heart, you have camitted fornication before Jehovah... so I was doomed... I must of f*cked a hundred blokes a day! I was a walking hormone what with the "NO MASTURBATION" rule... why I was fit to burst!!!
is one reason.... of many LOL
do any of you remember this... when one subscribed to the awake or watchtower magazines, they would, back in south africa, come in a cardboard roll... kinda like the kitchen roll cardboard thingies... then later they would come folded in half lengthways.
well, where i am going with this is here... it became sort of a status symbol in the congo to have one of these rolled mags and later the folded ones and one would make a point of straightening them out (despite them being underlined to death and well used) to show the fact that you subscribe to the magazines!
did any of you do something similar?
Do any of you remember this... when one subscribed to the Awake or Watchtower magazines, they would, back in South Africa, come in a cardboard roll... kinda like the kitchen roll cardboard thingies... then later they would come folded in half lengthways. Well, where I am going with this is here... It became sort of a status symbol in the congo to have one of these rolled mags and later the folded ones and one would make a point of straightening them out (despite them being underlined to death and well used) to show the fact that YOU subscribe to the magazines! Did any of you do something similar? I remember in my pious pioneering days *tutt tutting* to myself when I spotted someone with a spanking new crisp copy at the meeting. What a f*ckwitt I was!
But in all seriousness, in my congo it was a status symbol to have one of these magazines.
Brit
this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
Personally I never felt good enough even when I was pioneering, so even if I went back my chances of not being destroyed were slim.
BINGO! You got it in one Katie. I too felt that way the ENTIRE time I was pioneering and at Bethel... I would pray until I was sobbing to Jehovah to NOT make me Gay... to take this evil thing out of me... and why was I so unfairly chosen by Satan to have these homosexual "urges"? Why could I not be straight? Why was my earthly test so much harder than Joe Bloggs? Why was it I could not simply get married and satisfy my "urges"? Why could I not be like those brothers I read about in the Awake magazine who were once Gay and are now happilly married to sisters? THANK GOD I was gay because it FORCED me to face up to the shit that life can throw at you at a much younger age than my friends and made me a stronger better person for it! And it forced me to leave the borg and TRULY see the light... I shudder to think were I would be now if I had been born straight... perhaps married to some fat pioneer sister desperately unhappy trying to make Jehovah happy....
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after years of lurking - i'm on.. am i doing right i don't know.. confused ?
- yes i am..
Welcome! Welcome!
i was raised a jw, third generation.
grampa was a congregation servant and then elder, my dad was an elder for years.
i made it up the ranks fast, you were not anybody if you did not become an elder, i was appointed at an early age.
Howdy Skyking.... as one who was "marked" at the age of 16 I know the feeling only too well. I had to sit through the talk about how "homosexuality in the congregation has caused Jehovah's spirit to leave the congregation and the congregation is now a spiritual wasteland.... And now we hand over to Brother Brown with an important Announcement. Brother Britboy has been publically reproved and continues to serve as an unbaptised publisher"
SIXTEEN.... UNBAPTISED..... traumatised and devistated? You betcha! Given that my family were all there... all this for a spot of "mutual masturbation"!
Hang in there! It get's OH so much better!!!
Brit