my relaxed attitude is letting the side down
Nope. I know of no obligation we have to save cultists who have voluntarily chose to be in a cult. What have they done for you?
Posts by rebel8
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27For those who have been out for 5 years or more.......
by Phizzy in........... do you find you are now far more relaxed about things ?
things in general, and things wt/jw related ?.
i find i am much more relaxed and pragmatic about life in general, mrs phizzy and i do what we can, but we don't get overly upset at what we cannot do.
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"It's not religious..." Wait... What???
by dynamiterose77 inmy friend, mike works as a massage therapist, and there is a woman at the shop that is super-jw-woman and is constantly hounding him with things.. today, he's messaging me and he tells me that she was trying to push a brochure or something on him.
he said he'd really rather not read a religious pamphlet.. so... she says, "it's not religious... it's from god.".
isn't that kinda what religious means?
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rebel8
What's she getting out of this?
Counting her time? Walk away, be inaccessible, change the subject and talk incessantly so she can't get a word in.
Being right? You got that one covered.
Controlling him (using the captive audience to say whatever she wants)? Walk away, say you don't believe she's right, say no to everything she says, talk nonsense back to her so she tires out.
My strategy is to figure out what the dub is getting out of this behavior, and then remove that reward. B.F. Skinner said that works. So did Sheldon. Chocolate?
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Getting really for three days in hell
by cookiemaster inhey guys, there's another thing i wanted to share with you.
i know this topic has been discussed over and over again, but it's just so fun to complain about it.
we're going to the district convention this weekend.
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rebel8
I hope you don't come down with pinkeye, scabies, bedbugs, or mononucleosis. That would be contagious.
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"It's not religious..." Wait... What???
by dynamiterose77 inmy friend, mike works as a massage therapist, and there is a woman at the shop that is super-jw-woman and is constantly hounding him with things.. today, he's messaging me and he tells me that she was trying to push a brochure or something on him.
he said he'd really rather not read a religious pamphlet.. so... she says, "it's not religious... it's from god.".
isn't that kinda what religious means?
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rebel8
Seriously, he could get her to quit rather easily.
There's lots of massage techniques, meditation stuff, etc. that he could start talking about as incessantly as she talks about her non-religion. Discuss chakras, etc. He could say something about how he did a ritual in all the rooms to bring the positive spirits there and they're speaking to him now no matter where he goes in the building. They are telling him they are trying to possess her or something.
Deliver this news with a secretive wink. She will freak out and quit.
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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rebel8
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was a combo of ethics and happiness.
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Confidential News from Spain from an "Insider"
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/confidential-news-from-spain/.
the following email was sent to watchtower documents recently from a witness insider in spain.
congratulations for all the information you have given on the legal framework of the watchtower.. in spain, the watchtower is following the instructions coming from patterson that works exclusively with the law firm baker & mckenzie.
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rebel8
This is off topic from the OP, but here is info about the definition of bona fide volunteers under the ACA. I wonder if providing meals, room and board causes them to fall outside of this definition.
Bethelites get free health care
Is it within the confines of a qualified health plan though? I thought they just get services at the facility, not at hospitals?
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The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)
by done4good ini am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.
many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.
intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?
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rebel8
I've taken the actual test for a job interview and was denied the job due to the expectation that I would not want to interact with others. lol.
I have a strong E undercurrent and I interact with others all day now. As long as they don't hug me or tell me really sad, graphic stuff, I do fine. I just need to have some solitary time in my week to center myself.
Anyway, I've taken the online short test numerous times and got INTJ all but once.
Meyers-Briggs is one of the only psychological tests I actually believe in.
@rebel8 I learned about MBTI through an old post from you.
Spreading the gospel, one post at a time. (I will count this as 1 RV this month.)
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Your thoughts on demons, ghosts and spirits
by Crazyguy inas a jw were taught all about demons but i never had an incident.
my wife believes wholeheartedly says her family including her has had problems with them.
i have met people that even non religious people that say they have experienced a ghost or a spirit.
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The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)
by done4good ini am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.
many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.
intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?
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rebel8
I agree it does seem there is a disproportionate number of INTJs among active members here. I of course would like stats on that. ;)
Dubbery is highly incompatible with INTJs, so it would stand to reason that many are ex-jws. Also, INTJs are drawn to asynchronous methods of communication, like Internet forums. They like analysis and imagining different scenarios--viola, JWN.
I believe most successful JWs are ExxJs. They do not allow for boundaries or deep thought. Introspection is highly discouraged--it was when I was in--you were supposed to be studying a publication, praying or meditating on what you learned, so as not to let Satan in. Do you know how hard that is for an INTJ? Introspecting is like breathing for me. -
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VERY short day at the Arlington/Dallas International Convention-My Observations
by CaptainSchmideo inokay, some good takeaway:.
i have never been to a convention quite like this before.
a very friendly vibe all around, lots of banners and posters with sayings like "sending love to all our brothers", "see you in the paradise", "ecuador sends greetings", and "jehovahs-witness.net" (okay, i lied on that last one...).
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rebel8
What is this "see you in paradise" thing? It's something the dubs say on your deathbed (had it said to me when I was bleeding to death).
Anyway, why can't they see each other now? Why do they have to wait until TNS?
It creeps me out. Soooo culty.