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  Mental Disorders among JW's

  by Blackfalcon98 in

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  hi everyone, im begining to notice patterns of mental issues in the congregations and among the witnesses as a group.

  do you think this is a trend in the entire world or is it exagerated in this organization?.

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  rebel8

  rebel8, I'd like to see a link to that report. We don't want to be like the WTS with vague references to support material.

  blondie, you have criticized me for this in the past too, when someone posted a question and I gave them an idea on where to find the answer.

  I find this reaction something like:

  Q: "Hey, does anyone know if you can feed maple syrup to hummingbirds safely?"

  A: "I remember reading an article about it, try searching Audobon Society's site." (No statement about what the alleged article says. I've made no assertion about maple syrup, so I have no assertion to support.)

  Response: "You didn't post the article and a link to it--you're like the wts!"

  This is somewhat offensive, to tell you the truth. If you want to do research for others, that's your choice, but everyone should not have to do that or be likened to an evil, lying cult.
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  Glory of CREATOR is that

  by exWTslave in

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  glory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.

  yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.

  that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).

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  “The amazing thing is that every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And, the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics: You are all stardust. You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded, because the elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution - weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way they could get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died so that you could be here today.”
  ― Lawrence M. Krauss, A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing
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  My anointed mother sleep over!! She hears demon creaking at night and my wife cheats on me!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  visiting her "lost son" and this morning she says there was demonic "knocking" on the windows and ceiling and she did not sleep.

  my wife has her own buisness and works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone....she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor....thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi..... .

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  works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone

  I think I would have burst out laughing when she said that.

  Isn't there doctrine about imputing wrong motives?
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  Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?

  by 3rdgen in

  1. watchtower
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  a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.

  break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.

  the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.

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  I think I remember that in the 1970s, and then it was eliminated. IIRC people just wanted to get the whole Sunday meeting thing done with so they could get home. I was a kid then and thought it made the meeting seem a lot longer.
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  Glory of CREATOR is that

  by exWTslave in

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  glory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.

  yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.

  that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).

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  There have been a lot of assertions without evidence presented.

  For example, please provide evidence that "scientists think everything came from nothing". That is the opposite of everything I've ever heard and read. (Atoms and molecules are not "nothing".)

  And then we have the assertion that there is a god and he/it prefers to not communicate with us. Evidence?

  Thanks.
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  JW attitudes to women

  by Frazzled UBM in

  1. watchtower
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  i would be very interested to hear from you ladies on this one.

  i know that the society keeps women in subjugation through the headship cr@p but didn't ahve any sense about hoew prehistoric the attitudes are until the other day when we were driving out of the supermarket car park and my wife spotted a woman dressed in tight shorts (it has been very hot here) and she commented 'they say that women who dress like that dserve to be raped'.

  i did a wtf and overreacted 'how can you blame the victim like that - such attitudes give men a lciense to commit rape and make women feel they are to balme if they get raped which in turn means that rape doesn't get reported and it gopes on with impunity.

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  The misogyny in the cult is extremely sick. I've posted so much about it in this forum I'm afraid the other old timers have had enough of me on the soapbox about this. lol.

  Google "pregnant as the result of even one sex interview, watchtower jehovah".

  The misogyny is not just mean, it's dangerous. For me, not being allowed to have blood products meant many close calls. The odds were waaaaay against me surviving until adulthood. But I could have been greatly helped by a single, cheap little pill each day. I was not allowed to have that because taking birth control pills would make me sex crazy like cows (refer to the article I mentioned in the paragraph above). Yes, because apparently jw girls are one tiny pill away from a starring role on Girls Gone Wild.

  The way they treated rape and rape victims was beyond reprehensible as well.
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  MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST

  by NAVYTOWN in

  1. jw
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  i have come to the conclusion that there is no god.

  period!!!

  if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???

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  Navytown, I'm afraid you are just starting to again believe in a conclusion you drew long ago. You were born atheist! We all were.
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  Mental Disorders among JW's

  by Blackfalcon98 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone, im begining to notice patterns of mental issues in the congregations and among the witnesses as a group.

  do you think this is a trend in the entire world or is it exagerated in this organization?.

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  rebel8

  There was an article about the prevalence among jws, maybe Pew--don't recall. It's online somewhere.

  A confounding factor is they are less likely to be diagnosed because of the historical fear of psychiatry. Another--in that particular cult, people are much more up in people's bidness, so it's more likely you'd know about someone's illness than you would in a normal social group. Another--with their underemployment, one wonders if they would seek treatment at a rate equal to the general population.

  Mental illness is quite common in the general population, you know.

  PS-Antipsychotics can be used for reasons other than psychoses. Just sayin.
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
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  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  See? Easy peasy.

  curious lack of a single unambiguous miracle

  Why do supernatural powers resist manifesting themselves in a clear way?

  http://skepdic.com/lourdes.html

  The Fatima Lady promised a strange light would appear to show that the next world war was near. The light never appeared

  http://www.miraclesceptic.com/apparitionfraud.html
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  rebel8

  Have you ever felt like you were awake but unable to move? You might have even felt afraid but could not call for help? This condition is called sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis may leave you feeling frightened, especially if you also see or hear things that aren't really there. Sleep paralysis may happen only once, or you may have it frequently -- even several times a night.

  http://www.medicinenet.com/sleep_paralysis/article.htm

  It's really easy to find this stuff...just search for alternate explanations and you will easily find them...