(before you read i hope no one gets offended by the word retarted...that s how i thought when i was 13)my mom and dad are divorced and my father never helped my mother on raising us, so basically she was a single-mother.
he just abandoned my three brothers and me and my mother had to work two jobs all of the time so we never got to see her.
when we did see her it was after school, but all she did was yell at us, make food, and leave to her next job.
let me make it clear I had a connection with God NOT with religion
I find it hard to believe that you coincidentally came to believe in the xian version of a deity while living in a society that believes in the same thing w/o getting any idea about it from everyone all around you.
You had this idea in your brain, took a drug in order to hallucinate, and hallucinated about something you already believed. That doesn't make it true.
Oh look, a college Scholarship in an envelope....for me! I wonder where that came from?
Why are all these jws taking college prep courses in high school, prepping and taking college entrance exams, and applying for college scholarships?
They need to retire this oft-repeated fairy tale of jws being soooo smart colleges are just begging them to take scholarships without even trying, and they refuse to pioneer.
The boring truth: Someone in a teen's life (could be anyone--guidance counselor, uncle, neighbor, stranger on the Internet) says, "Hey, what are you doing after high school? You should consider college." And then the teen embellishes, running around claiming they were offered a scholarship and pressured to attend college.
Be a cabbage for Jesus
ROFL! I'm not certain I even get it but I think I do.
i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
can't say def as does not know how she will feel in 10 years time. But none of us can say what will happen in 10 years I suppose
Sorry, that sounds indecisive to me. I can definitely promise I will not feel positively toward the dubs in 10 or any number of years.
Maybe you can work with her to help her come to a decision. But it should not be because she wants to marry you--it should be because that's what's actually in her heart.
Not wanting to expose oneself to disconfirming information (COC) is a cult tactic. Ours taught that anyone who says anything bad about them is really controlled by Satan and they can be possessed by demons just by listening. Sounds like she's still afraid.
i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
I'm so sorry you're going through this, stevepill. I wish we had an answer for you that's easier to take.
Honestly though, it would be horrifying if you married, had kids and she exposed the kids to the cult. Horrifying.
So sorry. (( ))
i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
this is so hard, feel like giving up want to help her
That is really admirable, just know that you are now putting yourself in the position of deprogramming her. That could take decades and may never be successful.
You could try exposing her to information about the cult and see if it affects her. Give her time to process and accept what she learns, then re-assess.
ok more about the jw wedding i attended.
there were these two couples at our dinner table that were having an all out pissing competition as to who was the most spiritual.
they were comparing who was in "the truth" the longest, who pioneered where and for how long.
I like to chime in with things like, "I survived a Nazi concentration camp. And before that, I was a colporteur and knew Pastor Russell personally."
bwahahahahaha!!
google translation:.
condemned the perpetrators of the pyramid scam 700 jehovah's witnesses.
barcelona, february 6.
The dubs where I'm from, and those I know in other areas, are heavily into Shaklee, Amway and other pyramid-type vitamin schemes.
It's part of their legacy.
it started in the 1870's then throughout the 20th century.
and now here we are 15 years into the 21st century.
how many generations is that?
This centuries thing is a very interesting way to put the doctrine into perspective.
I like the generation count as well.
I bet these would be very convincing to some.
the first step to fading is to begin missing the meetings.. "if" anyone misses you, a quality excuse must be at the ready.
this will produce empathy toward you as opposed to suspicion.. 1. car problems ( don't mention that you caused them ).
2. stuck on the phone resolving insurance, billing, etc issues.. 3. sick ( of the meetings ).
Homicidal ideation caused by menopause
Pink eye (highly contagious)
Recent exposure to Tuberculosis or Measles
Projectile vomiting
Explosive diarrhea
Excessive gas
Menstrual cramps
Heavy menstrual bleeding
Hangover
Hallucinations
Migraine
Backache
Mononucleosis
Walking pneumonia
Struck by an evil spell
Mandated to work during meeting time by boss controlled by Satan
Morgellons Disease
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Any other invisible disease would work.
i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
"Inactive witness" just means she doesn't participate anymore, but has not been formally removed from the church. It doesn't tell us what she believes or plans to do.
If she still believes it's an ok religion to bring kids up in, run very fast and very far away.
My husband, before we married, asked about my current beliefs and stated in no uncertain terms he would terminate our relationship if I ever decided to return to the cult. I assured him I would not, and I have not.
Everyone who is considering making babies with someone else, or entering a committed relationship, should have the same conversation about religious beliefs and plans, really. You need to be sure you're on the same page.
