What comforts me? Reminding myself that the person lived a good life, was a good person, contributed to society, and lived life to the fullest. (This is probably very difficult if the person spent his life as a jw, because of all the waste, but perhaps there are things that you can reflect on that were aspects of this.)
Posts by rebel8
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46What comforts you when you no longer believe in a ressurrection ?
by EdenOne inour family just lost someone dear and very close, a faithful jw.
as we went through the entire funeral services and meeting long time brothers and sisters, who in general have been very kind and warm towards us, we realize that the hope of resurrection is a meaningless utopia for us, like a fairytale for little children.
we don't have faith in it anymore, and serves us of no comfort.
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God does exist here is my nonbiblical reason:
by Curious Kitten in(before you read i hope no one gets offended by the word retarted...that s how i thought when i was 13)my mom and dad are divorced and my father never helped my mother on raising us, so basically she was a single-mother.
he just abandoned my three brothers and me and my mother had to work two jobs all of the time so we never got to see her.
when we did see her it was after school, but all she did was yell at us, make food, and leave to her next job.
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rebel8
let me make it clear I had a connection with God NOT with religion
I find it hard to believe that you coincidentally came to believe in the xian version of a deity while living in a society that believes in the same thing w/o getting any idea about it from everyone all around you.
You had this idea in your brain, took a drug in order to hallucinate, and hallucinated about something you already believed. That doesn't make it true.
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rebel8
Oh look, a college Scholarship in an envelope....for me! I wonder where that came from?
Why are all these jws taking college prep courses in high school, prepping and taking college entrance exams, and applying for college scholarships?
They need to retire this oft-repeated fairy tale of jws being soooo smart colleges are just begging them to take scholarships without even trying, and they refuse to pioneer.
The boring truth: Someone in a teen's life (could be anyone--guidance counselor, uncle, neighbor, stranger on the Internet) says, "Hey, what are you doing after high school? You should consider college." And then the teen embellishes, running around claiming they were offered a scholarship and pressured to attend college.
Be a cabbage for Jesus
ROFL! I'm not certain I even get it but I think I do.
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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?
by stevepill ini have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
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rebel8
can't say def as does not know how she will feel in 10 years time. But none of us can say what will happen in 10 years I suppose
Sorry, that sounds indecisive to me. I can definitely promise I will not feel positively toward the dubs in 10 or any number of years.
Maybe you can work with her to help her come to a decision. But it should not be because she wants to marry you--it should be because that's what's actually in her heart.
Not wanting to expose oneself to disconfirming information (COC) is a cult tactic. Ours taught that anyone who says anything bad about them is really controlled by Satan and they can be possessed by demons just by listening. Sounds like she's still afraid.
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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?
by stevepill ini have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
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rebel8
I'm so sorry you're going through this, stevepill. I wish we had an answer for you that's easier to take.
Honestly though, it would be horrifying if you married, had kids and she exposed the kids to the cult. Horrifying.
So sorry. (( ))
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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?
by stevepill ini have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
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rebel8
this is so hard, feel like giving up want to help her
That is really admirable, just know that you are now putting yourself in the position of deprogramming her. That could take decades and may never be successful.
You could try exposing her to information about the cult and see if it affects her. Give her time to process and accept what she learns, then re-assess.
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Jehovah's Witness pi$$ing contest
by hoser inok more about the jw wedding i attended.
there were these two couples at our dinner table that were having an all out pissing competition as to who was the most spiritual.
they were comparing who was in "the truth" the longest, who pioneered where and for how long.
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rebel8
I like to chime in with things like, "I survived a Nazi concentration camp. And before that, I was a colporteur and knew Pastor Russell personally."
bwahahahahaha!!
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Spain: Condemned the perpetrators of the pyramid scam 700 Jehovah's Witnesses
by JHK ingoogle translation:.
condemned the perpetrators of the pyramid scam 700 jehovah's witnesses.
barcelona, february 6.
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rebel8
The dubs where I'm from, and those I know in other areas, are heavily into Shaklee, Amway and other pyramid-type vitamin schemes.
It's part of their legacy.
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we are in the 3rd century of the end being sooo close!
by nowwhat? init started in the 1870's then throughout the 20th century.
and now here we are 15 years into the 21st century.
how many generations is that?
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rebel8
This centuries thing is a very interesting way to put the doctrine into perspective.
I like the generation count as well.
I bet these would be very convincing to some.
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Excuses to miss the meeting that won't raise suspicion of a fade
by kairos inthe first step to fading is to begin missing the meetings.. "if" anyone misses you, a quality excuse must be at the ready.
this will produce empathy toward you as opposed to suspicion.. 1. car problems ( don't mention that you caused them ).
2. stuck on the phone resolving insurance, billing, etc issues.. 3. sick ( of the meetings ).
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rebel8
Homicidal ideation caused by menopause
Pink eye (highly contagious)
Recent exposure to Tuberculosis or Measles
Projectile vomiting
Explosive diarrhea
Excessive gas
Menstrual cramps
Heavy menstrual bleeding
Hangover
Hallucinations
Migraine
Backache
Mononucleosis
Walking pneumonia
Struck by an evil spell
Mandated to work during meeting time by boss controlled by Satan
Morgellons Disease
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Any other invisible disease would work.
