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  Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?

  by HereIgo in

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  i have never understood this.

  was it because of legal reasons?

  i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.

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  I would just start the recorder before I went into the room, if it is legal in my location. Usually you can record your own conversations w/o the knowledge of the other person, if I'm not mistaken.

  If you have a motive to record it then maybe you have enough motive to conceal the fact you're doing it.

  When I had mine in the 1980s, I had no small recorder and had no interest in recording it. I went under duress and didn't care what was said--it wouldn't have affected the outcome. I had already left the organization at that point.
  
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  Does any Body else think that the Brooklyn sale to...

  by Slidin Fast in

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  jared kushner, donald trump's son-in-law is a bit smelly.

  i this not another demonstration of hypocrisy on the part of god's clean organisation?

  who would want to be associated with the donald, even at arm's length after recent revelations?.

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  Who would want to be associated with the Donald, even at arm's length after recent revelations?

  Well, that statement has a few assumptions in it:

  1. jdubs dislike Trump's politics
  2. jdubs think a business deal with Trump's relative would impact them negatively
     
  3. jdubs wouldn't sell the property to someone who's politics they don't like

  I can't believe any of those things are true:

  1. jdubs are supposed to be politically neutral, but they're really not--they're actually Tea Party Conservatives in all cases I'm aware of--I am hard pressed to think of one thing about Trump they disagree with IRL, and they do think it's an abomination for a female to be a leader
     
  2. I think they believe their reputation wouldn't be affected by dealing with the son-in-law
  3. I think they do not care who they sell the property to as long as they get a good price quick
     
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  Brother with a beard on jw.org!

  by neat blue dog in

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  ok, slight exaggeration: specifically, an official recording of the july 25th, 2016 midweek meeting in german sign language downloaded from stream.jw.org, (log-in required), includes a brother with a beard giving one of the talks:.

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  Wow, that is quite shocking.

  Meh, you bros have it all wrong anyways. You can all wear beards. Just tell everybody you're a sister with a facial hair problem, and you're good.
  
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  Chinese Communist Party to commence nationwide crackdown on Christianity including Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  8 october 2016. china's governing communist party is set to launch a nationwide crackdown on the christian church.. by matthew carney - abc.

  the communist party has just enacted much tougher laws that criminalise christians if they do not pledge loyalty to the state.. chinese president xi jinping has warned that all religions now have to become "chinese" and the new laws will attempt to bring churchgoers and their leaders under party control.. the new laws will put the state firmly in charge, giving the communist party the ability to hire and fire church leaders and change religious doctrine to make it more chinese.... that means churchgoers will have to pledge loyalty to the communist party first.. there is good reason to be afraid.

  chinese authorities have already started the crackdown in the christian heartland in the southern province of zhejiang.. it's been extensive and brutal.

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  1, 2, 5, 6, and 7

  I don't think they would pull a Malawi again, but who knows? It sure did people in other countries feel safe knowing they are in the one true religion that gets persecuted, without having to be persecuted themselves.

  I remember writing Malawi letters as you mentioned in #5, but I don't recall being aware of this happening with Hitler.

  You could make another option:

  Option 8: Write the Chinese government a letter saying how they support its ideals (like they did with Hitler).
  
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  Steve Hassan. Can some one verify if this is true.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. scandals

  https://culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/8227-disclaimer-regarding-steve-hassan.html.

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  The allegations of dual relationships and use of hypnosis/NLP are what concerns me most out of all those listed in the article. Those are dealbreakers.
  
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  Elaine from the bunker video

  by jookbeard in

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  does anyone know anything about the luscious elaine?

  is she a professional actress or just a member of the r&f recruited to be a member of the cast of this video?

  the pout,olive skin stunning looks make my heart miss a beat every time i see this beauty.

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  it can only be Jehovah's organisation that such a thing can happen

  Oh frickety frack, I haven't heard that one in a long time, and 7 of my brain cells just died.

  ONLY in his org can such a thing happen. Because there are no "Hollywood acting coaches" outside the borg. And no TV cameras. And no bad scripts about people in bunkers after the apocalypse--there is definitely not an entire subgenre of sci fi with post-apocalyptic themes. ONLY IN HIS ORG.

  
  
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  If I Became a JW, Could I Have My Cat on Paradise Earth?

  by Cold Steel in

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  would i?

  i wouldn't mind if he slept through eternity (he sleeps most of the time anyway).

  i'd just like to be able to move him around occasionally.

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  No, Jehovah hates cats.
  
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  Hello

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.

  there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.

  i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.

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  Welcome and I wish you the best on your journey, wherever it takes you.
  

  This forum has helped many of us to sort things out. It stimulates thought and reflection, even if you end up disagreeing with other posters.
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  Ridiculous ways you kept your "time going" in service?

  by HereIgo in

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  2. experiences

  i used to go out early mornings with 2 pioneer elders, we would drive 20 miles out of the territory (a big no-no) to look for hikers to preach to lol of course there were never any hikers.

  then off to starbucks for another hour lol easy way to count 2-4 hours.

  i am chuckling as i write this, what a joke!.

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  I hated all of the cheating on hours.

  Start your time on the way to the KH by dropping off some yellowed back issues in a laundromat, bonus points if you drive really slowly. Then go to the service meeting or whatever it's called where you put napkins on your head because there's a 3-yr-old boy present, then split up your territory cards and car groups. Count your time while in the KH, drag your feet afterwards, and drive to the territory. So far, you have dumped some moldy issues in a dirty foyer, and you count 2 hours and 5 placements. LOL.

  Then lots of tricks while you're out. Walk & drive really slowly. Purposely do back calls across town so you can count time while driving.

  Each car group member needs to take a bathroom break at a different time while the others wait.

  Jehovah is a kind boss who gives paid breaks, so be sure to take 2 morning breaks, a lunch break and an afternoon break. Linger at each break by talking loudly about how bad the world is getting, and you can stretch the truth to claim you were witnessing to the other coffee shop patrons.
  

  Do back calls while everybody in the car group waits, counting their time.

  Visit an inactive, unbaptized or lonely single person, count your time while having tea and bonbons.
  
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  Can a full healing from cult ever be accomplished

  by Chook in

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  can all indoctrination leave a person , or does it linger in background till death..

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  rebel8

  We are always a compilation of our experiences, good and bad.

  The only way we can overcome the bad is by replacing them with new experiences and knowledge.