I was a child in the 60s/70s so my perception is limited, but let me paint you a picture of what I remember it to be like.
Remember the FLDS compound on Big Love that lived by its own sick set of laws? Yeah. Like that.
YMMV if you have a penis.
Posts by rebel8
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68What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's
by UnshackleTheChains inthis is obviously a question for the older generation.
i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.
was the society as strict as it is today?.
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Toxic Person?
by stuckinarut2 ini read a fantastic quote that applies to the way the society treats those who choose to leave...:.
"when a toxic person can no longer control you, they will try and control how others see you".
just wanted to share....
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rebel8
It seems people are quite brave hidden in anonymity, behind their keyboard. I imagine they'd be far more polite and reasonable face to face.
It's interesting you say that. When I left dubdumb, there was no Internet. There was a fad among the dubbies to write letters if you had trouble talking to a person. I got letters after leaving, which I refused to read. My mother asked me why and I told her it was not an assertive, grown up way to communicate. Also I didn't want to communicate with them, lol.
I remember one person writing me a note who was a sincerely nice person--the exception.
This other childish, self-centered douchebag bully was big into writing letters. I suspect she liked it because she felt she could always have the last word. I ripped hers up. Years later, I ran into her and told her off. (I am the opposite of the quote above--I am more polite if I can censor my thoughts by electronic means.)
I think this quote originates on a web article dealing with narcissists.
Probably and it's apropos. Narcissists are very emotionally immature and center their entire selves around themselves. It fits dubs very well.
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Would human settlement of Mars invalidate Bible prophecy?
by truthseeker ini don't think this topic has been discussed before but yesterday i read something to the effect that trump wants a human mission to mars to be completed within his presidency.. with that being said, the watchtower teaches that what started on earth ends on earth, in other words, the fall of adam and eve would end with the passing of the 1,000 year millennial reign when christ destroys all his enemies, rebellious "perfect" humans, and the devil and his demons who are let out the abyss for a short while.
he then hands the kingdom back to his father.
an elder in my old congregation once told us during a public talk that he was an ardent astronomer but then referenced the scripture where it says, "the earth he has given to the sons of men" (psalms 115:16).
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rebel8
wt teachings, like all other religions, have their own ever-evolving fan fiction based loosely on the bible.
Whenever anything disproves the bible, a handful of fans wake up and the rest just reinvent their mythology.
This has already happened, time and again.
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New York's Bethel tunnels are no more . . .
by neat blue dog inhttp://www.brownstoner.com/neighborhood/brooklyn-heights/jehovahs-witnesses-brooklyn-heights-tunnels/.
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rebel8
The jw rumor back in the day was the tunnels were kept to allow the Bethelites to not come in contact with Normals.
A cult with a commune that restricts outside contact.
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Only Jehovah's people
by rebel8 intoday i went to a large talk.. there was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.. it was orderly and calm.. trash was put in the proper place.
people were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.. the speakers were passionate and inspiring.. the entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.. it was march for science, not a dub ass-embly.
so much for "only jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events..
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rebel8
no "please be seated" or "quiet" signs being carried around by some snot nosed kids
LOL I totally forgot about that! How strange that they do this.
I remember feeling as though I had to obey them because they were boys.
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rebel8
Ditto to what Orphan Crow said.
Letting yourself and children die to obey people in Crooklyn--for a reason not supported by science or scripture--makes them way beyond quirky and slightly conservative!
So do many other teachings and acts that are kept secret. Need I tell you the gory stories of my own childhood? For example, why I was not allowed to wear a bra or shave because it would "make me have sex"? And why I was not allowed to take hormone pills that would make my bleeding disorder vastly better because it would "make me have sex"? And why I was called a vampire and demon possessed as a child because only Satan could cause a medical condition that requires blood transfusions? And why it was totally expected that I would bleed to death as a child as Jehovah's loving way of allowing me to pay the wage of death for having this disease so I might have everlasting life (which would be celibate because resurrected people can't marry)?
How about the girl in my hall who took birth control pills for a different medical condition, only to have the whole hall gossip that she was growing a penis and had become a prostitute because of the pill? I heard she committed suicide.
What about another girl in the hall who had herself declared a fornicator from the platform, at age 14, for making out with a boy?
How about the boy from my hall who lost his privilege to carry microphones because he shaved off his sideburns in the 80s?
How about the ban on dating when you're an older teen, because you're not "at the age of marriage"?
Need I continue?
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If you had to choose
by dothemath inif you had to choose to belong to 1 religion, i was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.. i realize most here are likely atheist (i would have to say i'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?.
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rebel8
Secular Humanism.
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Only Jehovah's people
by rebel8 intoday i went to a large talk.. there was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.. it was orderly and calm.. trash was put in the proper place.
people were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.. the speakers were passionate and inspiring.. the entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.. it was march for science, not a dub ass-embly.
so much for "only jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events..
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rebel8
Today I went to a large talk.
There was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.
It was orderly and calm.
Trash was put in the proper place. People were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.
The speakers were passionate and inspiring.
The entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.
It was March for Science, not a dub ass-embly. So much for "only Jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events.
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When Milton Henschel was tortured and beaten in Africa
by Hecce in*** yb77 pp.
173-174 liberia ***.
after sitting down, the witnesses were told to look at the sun, and soldiers watched their eyes to make sure they were staring at the blazing sun.
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rebel8
Of course, the source is a liar, so we need to take it with a grain of salt.
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JW's And Their Education Level
by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu ini was thinking about this.... in my congregation, i was literally the only one with universitary education, out of a cong from around 110 people.... and we're very close to a very big university, which makes it even weirder.. on the other hand... sooo many here with their own business, mostly small cleaning businesses.
cleaning windows, or cleaning somewhere else... painters.... all have jobs that do not require any education level, cos they never had a decent education.. how is the composition of the jw people/congs that you know about?.
how many painters... cleaners... compared to people with jobs that require higher education?.
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rebel8
I was from a big college town and jws were among the least educated groups.
Ass-embly programs always included lots of drumming on the anti-education message. There were lots of talks about how great it is to start your own business. All you need is a squeegee--just walk around the mall asking the store owners to pay you $8 to clean their windows each week and jehoopla will manipulate the store owners' hearts to say yes. He always provides for you as long as you don't do something bad like get a full-time job, go to college or get a 2-door car.
Or if you're a chick, you need a vacuum cleaner and bucket. Put an ad in the Pennysaver offering to clean somebody's house for 2 hours per week for $25.