Posts by rebel8

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Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

by Edison Trent in

short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

rebel8

Meh, pocket checks could just be letting them look inside your purse or turning your pockets inside out for them. This happens at every sporting event I've been to lately.

IMO they have been stupid not to do this. As usual, they implement things way after everyone else. That's about right for a stuck-in-the-Victorian-era religion.

So can you imagine though--some of the bros will be orgasmic over this new privilege. They will feel so important. They get to be in the stadium first and they get to be bouncers.

This makes me want to go and secretly distribute factual pamphlets, leaving them around in different spots when nobody's looking.

Oooh--I thought of something better. Can anyone hook me up with a fake ID and an assignment to be one of the bouncers? I will have to dress as a man, which will take some practice, but how hard could it be? Then I will not let all the elders in, saying they are suspicious persons. Or I could plant some apostate literature in their pockets. LOL

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Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Respond to All Accusations Made Against Them? FROM WEBSITE

by NikL in

jw
friends

you could fertilize your garden with this shite.... https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/respond-to-accusations/.

rebel8

we avoid getting into pointless arguments.
You didn't even respond to the Australian Royal Commission when you were officially subpoenaed 3 times!

You have to admit any arguing with the RC would have been pointless.

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Fake publisher card

by floridaborn in

jw
friends

so i've been a lurked on this site for about 15 years, thank goodness for dial up internet.... anyway my fade has been working off and on for that long but my whole family is still in including my kid.

at this point i have started dating a worldly person.

he is wiling to put onthe facade of being a witness so i don't have to lose my family.

rebel8

I think you'd need several co-conspirators, one to make the fake documents and others to answer mail or phone contacts from the recipients.

Doing some workaround for this seems like something you'd watch on TV, like a retired spy or cop who secretly helps people in unconventional ways.

We need an xjw Equalizer!

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Just got back from Field Service

by biblexaminer in

i had to work with an elder in fs today.

there was no way out.. this elder is from africa somewhere, right off the boat.

how do they view children?.

rebel8

What exactly should I have done?

I don't think I'm hijacking the thread because you are venting about a bad situation, which implies you're open to discussing it, and then you're directly stating, "What should I have done differently?"

Participating in the religion in any capacity, but especially preaching, encourages more innocents to join and existing members to stay.

This is the actual consequence no matter how "held hostage" you may feel.

But you are not an actual hostage.

Granted--just like many other adult situations, religious or not--all available choices have imperfect outcomes.

You're choosing yours. Choose wisely.

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Guys ... Be honest here ... Do you ever Pee in the bathroom sink

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

last month i got caught by my wife after a late night out with her (and some drinks).

i guess i am evil.. just wondering if anyone else has had this misfortune.. rub a dub.

rebel8

Jesus H. Christ! It's not like using the toilet is a huge burden.

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Turning 60 today (Happy Birthday to me)

by NewYork44M in

jw
friends

it is my birthday today.

given that i turn 60 today means that i graduated high school in 1975. time flies when you are having fun.. i remember the council i got about not worrying about a career because this wicked system was rapidly coming to a conclusion.

now i am 60 and most of those bastards are dead and the end is still in the future..

rebel8

wow, congrats!

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

rebel8

Disco, by the way, was completely vilified. Disco was not allowed in any way--you could not even see movies if they had disco soundtracks! In fact,

I was not allowed to have further contact with a longtime non-jw friend because she watched Saturday Night Fever and had a strobe light in her play room. (We were pre-teens.)

We were told constantly from the platform that disco was created by tribes as a demonized fertility ritual that promoted homosexuality. (Don't ask me how a fertility ritual promotes homosexuality. I have no clue!)

And WHY would you tell kids they will become demon possessed homosexuals if they listen to music...it's just wrong to treat children that way.

One of the elders quit his job in 1975, and became a pioneer in October (in spite of having to support his 13 children). He also trained himself to eat leaves for when the great tribulation arrives.

^WOW

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Do religious people fear that their religion may be wrong???

by James Mixon in

because there are so many religions in the world and it is obvious that no matter what the truth is, a large population of people will be wrong about it.

we at one time believe we had the truth and 99% of the world population were in darkness, but i wonder about folks in other religions today.

speaking with a christian friend about this and he told me," that's for god to decide, i hope i'am serving god"...the sad thing about all of this if one die and still believe in his religion, he will never know he was in the wrong religion.

rebel8

Many members of mainstream religions I've known don't think of it that way at all.

They basically think of it as a club they belong to and participate in at arm's length. They don't agree with everything the club does or says or its rules. They just smile and participate to the extent they want to and shrug their shoulders at the rest.

I do believe most members of cults, deep inside, question the veracity of the "absolute truth" they are being fed. This is because cults are fundamentally different than mainstream religions in that they consume the cultist's entire lifestyle.

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

rebel8

I was a child in the 60s/70s so my perception is limited, but let me paint you a picture of what I remember it to be like.

Remember the FLDS compound on Big Love that lived by its own sick set of laws? Yeah. Like that.

YMMV if you have a penis.

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Toxic Person?

by stuckinarut2 in

i read a fantastic quote that applies to the way the society treats those who choose to leave...:.

"when a toxic person can no longer control you, they will try and control how others see you".

just wanted to share....

rebel8

It seems people are quite brave hidden in anonymity, behind their keyboard. I imagine they'd be far more polite and reasonable face to face.

It's interesting you say that. When I left dubdumb, there was no Internet. There was a fad among the dubbies to write letters if you had trouble talking to a person. I got letters after leaving, which I refused to read. My mother asked me why and I told her it was not an assertive, grown up way to communicate. Also I didn't want to communicate with them, lol.

I remember one person writing me a note who was a sincerely nice person--the exception.

This other childish, self-centered douchebag bully was big into writing letters. I suspect she liked it because she felt she could always have the last word. I ripped hers up. Years later, I ran into her and told her off. (I am the opposite of the quote above--I am more polite if I can censor my thoughts by electronic means.)

I think this quote originates on a web article dealing with narcissists.

Probably and it's apropos. Narcissists are very emotionally immature and center their entire selves around themselves. It fits dubs very well.