Posts by rebel8

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What I Noticed At An Event During This Week. . . . . .

by HiddlesWife in

i attended an event this week with my usual closest relatives, which was inside a community center-ish venue with a backyard area.

it was given by my cousin's best friend.

she invited around 50 people of all age groups and racially-mixed.

rebel8

Yes but there is punishment if you dine a la carte in this group.

That's what distinguishes mainstream religions from cults. There is currently a Jew scientist claiming she doesn't believe in a god and that's perfectly consistent with Jewish beliefs (LOL). She won't be shunned, lose her job, family and housing. Nothing bad will happen to her. If a JW said they didn't believe in god, all of those things would happen.

Piercing used to be a fringe activity that got you labeled as 'bad association'. If you did it too much, you could lose privileges and even be reproofed for stumbling others.

I don't remember if I got my piercings after leaving the borg or not. I do remember knowing I was going to be regarded as a bad person for having them, and mine are tame.

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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."

by Muddy Waters in

this was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.

feel free to add your own observations and experience.

the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.

rebel8

In-group language is an attribute of cults.

http://www.csj.org/studyindex/studymindctr/study_mindctr_singer.htm

It's not a church, it's a congregation/hall.

It's not a prophecy, it's an overly eager review of bible chronology.

It's not clergy, it's an elder.

It's not passing the plate, it's a donation arrangement.

It's not a religious holiday, it's wearing extra special dress clothes to a religious service with personal celebrations afterwards.

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They lied about methuselah tree at convention

by hoser in

jw
friends

there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

rebel8

testing posting--my previous 2 posts didn't work

ugh

Anyways, is it pretty much a widely accepted fact that such flora could not have possibly survived the biblical flood?

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My mums dying she refuses blood transfusion...the horror.

by Witness 007 in

mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.

so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.

watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.

rebel8

I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

I agree with On the Way Out's post though. I'm sure it is hard to think that way right now, but it's true.

This is an adult who is acting upon sincerely held beliefs. She has had plenty of opportunities to find the truth and change her thinking, and she hasn't. Even now, she doesn't--this is happening in the present tense.

It seems clear she has made her choice, even though it's baffling to us.

To her, accepting blood is disgusting, reprehensible, as bad as rape. Even if she were to magically change her beliefs right this second, that repulsion about blood would not disappear.

In the end, she has made her choice to abdicate critical thinking.

I am glad you are bringing her favorite things and being so kind. I'll bet she couldn't ask for more. :)

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To Fade or Disassociate

by Jules Saturn in

hello to all, so i did want to talk about this topic because i think it is very important to me.

i have a grandfather who faded several decades ago.

he occasionally attends an assembly and the memorial but no longer attends meetings or goes on field service.

rebel8

As previously stated here and other threads, the Borganization has an interested in disassociation, not you. It does absolutely zero for you and possibly does you harm (severs some important relationships).

The Borganization benefits greatly because it reinforces their authority and insulates their Borg from your logic and reason.

There is nothing in this that benefits you.

DA is not your ritual and has nothing to do with you now.

If you need a ceremonial split, you can do that yourself.

Burn your pioneer card, have a Goodbye Borg party, block all dubs, cancel your talks, change your health care proxy, change your religious identification on your driver's license, get a freethinker tattoo, put yourself on the Do Not Call list, have a single catch-up holiday day called ChristmabirthEasteValentine's Day.......

If you want to flip the bird to the Borganization, DA is not the best way to do that. Playing by their rules makes them happy. Write a letter, take out an ad in the newspaper, do a media interview, do a YouTube video.........

I can think of a gajillion ceremonial ways to leave your Mother without helping her to destroy others' lives and your own.

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Just sittin' and mindin' my own business...

by Distracted in

i was sitting at a local city event enjoying watching an activity.

a friendly looking woman dressed in blue jeans and a floppy hippy looking top came and sat down besides me.

she notices i am sketching and says she likes to do this too.

rebel8

I'm sorry but I don't see the problem.;)

She noticed you were sketching. She gave you some free paper.

Think about it.

You can pioneer (see what I did there?) a new art genre with tiny surfaces vandalized to become small apostate artworks.

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The beard issue

by Ray Frankz in

this is my second topic here.

sorry for this biiig post.

i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.

rebel8

I remember similar things happening in my congregation related to hairstyles. If you shaved your sideburns, you couldn't carry microphones. Or skinny ties.

I remember some young guys having a real issue with it. Looking back, I think it was their wake-up call and was not even the main issue they had with the religion. Something along the lines of, "You have f*(&)d up my life enough. The line must be drawn here. No further."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jln3mi0vfJU

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How many JWs would offer their young daughters as a bride to a single GB member

by Chook in

i think the bragging rights of parents would rule.

i've seen cos marry girls no older than there own children when their spouse has died..

rebel8

They remind me of the FLDS' May-December romances. It's definitely a thing. One day maybe I will put some thought and research into figuring out what sick sociological forces are at work there.

Obviously, relationships with age differences can be healthy, but in the jw world, everything's already f^(&d up and the power differential makes it worse.

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Introducing Our Rockstar Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

isnt nice to see the governing body being so humble, meek and not seeking their own importance?.

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stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/005df9f7e68e40cb9b013248fe7b670c.html

rebel8

WHY. The. F^(& would anyone want a bible autographed by leadership of a cult that claims to be superior for having no leadership?! Ah, the hypocrisy!

LOL @ the dishwasher analysis!

Little sisters rocking Vancouver

And just BTW...how this cult tries to normalize itself. Sleeveless dresses? No hosiery? That was NOT allowed in my day.

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Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

by _Morpheus in

had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

rebel8

The session starts now with music videos. Music. Videos. Playing christain pop! I swear this was neil diamond esq christain pop!

The drama was now in video form... ok fair enough. But it was a soap opera! A strait up daytime soap opera, complete with a trailer that said "previously on remember the wife of lot" and credits!

How could there be a second episode to that story? What would the story line be--she turns into a salt lick?

The songs before and after were more christain pip, complete with built in clap lines! Nobody actually clapped, but the track sounded as if it was included!

LMAO! This is HILARIOUS!