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  How to get my kids out

  by SaneAgain in

  1. social
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  i've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.

  my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).

  i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.

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  1. Focus on critical thinking skills.

  Here's some books that sound good. I've never had a chance to read them.

  If they start talking about the teachings, couch them as things "some people believe" and that beliefs are choices. Ask them if they know what other people believe and discuss. How would we know which god is real, jehoopla or Thor? They are equally as plausible and have the same amount of evidence.

  Maybe you could have informal little conversations ready to use when you have an opportunity. For example, there is ample evidence no global flood ever took place, there was no such thing as the water canopy, etc. (Probably one of the jw teachings most easy to disprove.) Discuss all the flood myths that predate the bible.

  2. Show them how to be a good person outside the borg. Take them to volunteering events, etc.

  3. Show them you can have good, wholesome fun outside the borg.

  4. Read the bible together. Read a very small snippet and let them discuss it openly. The bible is a totally evil book and has a lot of mistakes a creator wouldn't say about his creation (bats are birds, Earth is a circle). Stimulate and permit open examination of these things. Gawd sent His Super Special People into battle several times knowing they'd all die. Why would he bother wiping out the population with a flood himself and later not be in the mood for swimming, so he needs people to engage in combat for him? Why did he say to dash babies against rocks?
  
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  The WTBTS and Elders have too many stupid rules!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hated ministry book bags.i hated coming out of my home with the book bags looking like i was going to a seminar.so,i starting going to the ministry school and sunday bible meetings holding only the required books for that day in my hand.. for the sunday meetings,i would just carry the song book,bible and watchtower magazine in my hand.

  no book bag!

  for the ministry school,i would just carry just what necessary for the evening.

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  Oh my gawd--these rules!

  I remember being given a really nice bookbag. We really did not have money for other things but we got those when we turned a certain age. A really nice, professional briefcase. I probably would have looked like a tiny lawyer if it weren't for the prairie skirts.

  It was such a status symbol too--like you were more spiritual if you had one.

  Idiotic.
  
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  Spock is dead

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  leonard nimoy is no longer with us

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  rebel8

  Suffocating to death. I can't imagine.
  
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  Top 10 Memorial Excuses

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good excuses.

  pinkeye.

  (highly contagious, and you aren't supposed to touch other people's dishes and glasses.)tuberculosis.

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  It's that time again (I think)
  
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  Just Want To Be Heard

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been lurking here for a while now, and i guess you could call me a fader.

  i don't have hate in my heart for the organization that i spent most of my life in, but i have had an awakening.

  luckily, so has my wife, and that way i don't feel so alone.

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  rebel8

  Keep thinking, keep growing--even if it's scary or painful.

  Good luck on your journey.
  
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  I quit the Theocratic Ministry School

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after almost 24 years in the school and doing it since i was nine years old, i officially resigned.

  it has become increasingly difficult to prepare talks, especially with the new format for brothers.

  i did not mind doing them; i actually put the time and effort into getting them out.

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  Yeah, welcome to the sistas' world. lol.

  The elders used to deliberately assign your helpers to be someone you didn't like, to promote harmony in the borg or whatever. So awkward. I started refusing assignments toward the end, because that was the last straw.

  But it was certainly not the real reason I wasn't giving talks...it was because I could no longer stomach marketing their deadly message.
  
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  Talking to support and contacts at WT HQ

  by Juan Viejo2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a story to share about my calls to wt ny hq this past week.

  i was quite surprised by the level of disinterest and lack of concern from the two contacts that i spoke to.

  rather than jumping right in and sharing my experience - and perhaps "poisoning the well," i'd like to read experiences of others on this forum who had the urge or need to call the wt contact number.. btw - mine was not an apostate rant or overly critical of the wt and was presented in a friendly and helpful way.

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  It's against the law (in NY) to record people without their permission.

  NY has a one-party consent law. Only 1 of the parties to a conversation must consent to it being recorded. So go and record all you want!
  
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  I quit the Theocratic Ministry School

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after almost 24 years in the school and doing it since i was nine years old, i officially resigned.

  it has become increasingly difficult to prepare talks, especially with the new format for brothers.

  i did not mind doing them; i actually put the time and effort into getting them out.

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  rebel8

  I am not understanding this thread. It sounds like you're saying you quit because you didn't like the new format of the talks, and that was your main reason for quitting. Is that correct?

  I was just thinking about you being counseled for introducing the scripture, and then my mind wandered to the "crit" after the talks. I never minded it at the time, but when you think about it, it's really weird to give a liturgy and then be critiqued in front of the entire flock. Kind of like a reality competition show for cultists.
  
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  People calling me... >.<

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oh my god!.

  it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.

  first my home phone and then my cell phone.

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  rebel8

  Oh I wasn't offended or anything! Just a follow up post on an interesting topic.
  
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  People calling me... >.<

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oh my god!.

  it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.

  first my home phone and then my cell phone.

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  rebel8

  Those were serious suggestions. You may find it effective to go on the offensive, using their own wackadoodle beliefs as your weapon against them.