Posts by rebel8

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how the things are going with my sister

by opusdei1972 in

this morning i phoned my sister so as to know how the things are going with her problem with the congregation.

if i remember well, five weeks ago, my sister was asked by the elders (in the street) to attend a judicial meeting for apostasy.

my sister told them that she firstly needs a formal letter specifying who is accusing her.

rebel8

If the elders disfellowship her for apostasy, she knows that the congregation will speculate about her moral behavior. May be some sisters, who were her friends, will say that she was disfellowshipped for committing sexual immorality, and so on. So, she told me that if she is disfellowshipped, she will make public this act of defamation.

Am I correct that the offense is no longer alluded to in the df announcement at the hall? If so, the persons defaming her would be those speculating and spreading rumors, not the elders...right?

(I am not defending the elders in any way, but I am quite skeptical this strategy has any legal viability. Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not know what country you're in or what your laws are.)

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Watchtower sued for Racketeering in California

by under the radar in

a little birdie informed me that a lawsuit against the watchtower bible & tract society, its legal department, and several individuals (perhaps lawyers in the legal department) has been filed in the superior court of the state of california, county of los angeles for, wait for it.... racketeering!.

that's right, folks, you heard it here first.

i have no other information, other than the case was stamped "aug 07 2015" and the docket number appears to be bc590675.

rebel8

I skimmed through the 2009 document. It was painful to read. Obviously the man is hurting. I wish he wasn't representing himself, because it appears he is doing himself a disservice. It appears information is mentioned as evidence that is not really pertinent to the issue at hand.

Interesting that it's a civil case for violation of civil rights, not a criminal one.

So would the burden of proof be less? Would the plaintiff have to prove a violation of RICO occurred (which requires proving criminal intent)?

Why is RICO being brought up, if it's a civil case? I have so many questions.

Does anyone know if the status listed ("pending") means the court is proceeding with the case, or does that mean the decision hasn't been made yet?

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how the things are going with my sister

by opusdei1972 in

this morning i phoned my sister so as to know how the things are going with her problem with the congregation.

if i remember well, five weeks ago, my sister was asked by the elders (in the street) to attend a judicial meeting for apostasy.

my sister told them that she firstly needs a formal letter specifying who is accusing her.

rebel8

I wonder if they are just delaying until they get a decision from wt legal dept.

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Adjourned...........not over.

by umbertoecho in

jehovahs witnesses hearing adjourned.

6 august, 2015. .

the hearing into the jehovahs witnesses has adjourned until further notice.case study 29 into the jehovahs witnessescommenced on monday 27 july 2015, inquiring into jehovah's witnesses and watchtower bible and tract society of australia ltd.further information regarding this public hearing will be announced in due course.. .

rebel8

What is the authority of the Royal Commission? I went to their website and they tout themselves as a nonprofit organization, not a legal authority.

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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

by Calebs Airplane in

the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..

rebel8

What is the authority of the Royal Commission? I went to their website and they tout themselves as a nonprofit organization, not a legal authority.

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Jwfacts tv appearance

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

shout out to jwfacts.. just saw the drum.

excellent job !

!.

rebel8

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ROYAL COMMISSION: ARE JWS TAUGHT TO REFRAIN FROM SWEARING ON THE BIBLE OR NOT? JW.ORG PLEASE EXPLAIN!

by steve2 in

during yesterday's rc proceedings (wednesday 5th august 2015), one of the victim's lawyers questioned mr vincent toole, the jw organization's legal counsel for the australian branch office.

she asked him why at least two of the jw elders who gave evidence last week refused to swear on the bible.

mr toole appear puzzled by her question and said he did not know.

rebel8

I recall dubs not willing to swear on a translation other than their own.

But not doing any oath because all oaths are Pagan? Can't say I remember that now.

Marriage vows and baptismal oaths seem to be ok with them.

Also, I believe there was an oath for becoming a pioneer.

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The cruelty of shunning now being exposed rc

by poopie in

jw
friends

let justice roll forth.

rebel8

They shun even when they don't have to. its their fall back position. And to top it off.....they tell you how hard it is for them to do it!!!

This is a very good point. They shun even when they don't have to...then they tell you how hard it is for them to do. Uh, no. It's not hard to give someone the silent treatment if you hate them.

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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific

by LAWHFol in

i have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.

i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.

"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.

rebel8

Atheism is the absence of belief in a deity, not the firm rejection of it. An atheist can fail to believe in a deity and reject the possibility or not.

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What would a JW do if their none JW neighbor molested their 9 year old daughter???

by James Mixon in

have anyone heard of a case where they (jw) turn the person over.

to the law???

?.

rebel8

Excellent point.

I knew a few. They handled it with authorities, but reluctantly, no care for the child, and gossiping about the child to the people at the hall. Ruined the victim's reputation, you know, because girls are damaged goods if they get raped (according to their twisted theology), and if they didn't cry out, they are guilty of fornication.

God this is a sick organization.