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  Were you beaten as a child?

  by purrpurr in

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  i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.

  particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.

  not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.

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  My mother would tell the story of me lining up my dolls to play meeting. She observed me angrily jerking them out of the seat and beating the heck out of them.
  

  omg, you just brought back memories of jw kids younger than me doing just that. So very sad.

  made to eat soap

  I got that a lot because I was mouthy. Let's just say I was not happy when the local grocery store started carrying liquid dish soap, though I came to prefer lemon Joy over the other flavors.
  

  Part of this is because it was socially acceptable among worldly people to do this (proving they are not better than "the world"). I am listening to some 1950s radio programs right now, and one fictional story mentioned a child having to take a scalding bath as punishment. It was mentioned in passing as though it was quite normal.

  These torture techniques are just horrifying really.
  
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  The Watchtower's Medical Bible - the HLC handbook

  by rebel8 in

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  posting this pm at the request of orphan crow:.

  from a medical virtual library in spain:

  "fernando martinez guerrero, the liaison committee hospitals of jehovah's witnesses , has made ​​the library a collection of abstracts of scientific articles related to blood conservation techniques and perioperative ( blood conservation techniques and perioperative planning ).

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  rebel8

  Posting this PM at the request of Orphan Crow:
  

  From a medical virtual library in Spain: "Fernando Martinez Guerrero, the Liaison Committee Hospitals of Jehovah's Witnesses , has made ​​the library a collection of abstracts of scientific articles related to blood conservation techniques and perioperative ( Blood Conservation Techniques and Perioperative Planning ). This document is divided into several parts, which I link here for your reference for all those interested in the topic: https://bibliovirtual.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/guia-de-ahorro-de-sangre-en-el-hospital-de-torrevieja/

  The Hospital Liaison "handbook" is available as 10 pdfs that can be downloaded. The entire document is a formidable 4660 pages long. The first six parts primarily contain abstracts of medical studies that support the no blood stance of the JWs. *note - Since this version of the Medical Bible was produced in 2001, Dr. Joachim Boldt's research has been declared fraudulent and his papers retracted. This 2001 version has 14 of Boldt studies referenced. I do not know if the WT's Hospital Information Services has followed suit to most other publications and retracted his papers from their current reference guide.
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  Were you beaten as a child?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.

  particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.

  not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.

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  Yes, and she was deliberately brutal, choosing her weapons and targeting her blows to maximize their impact against my medical problems. She did it when she was frustrated with her own life, mad at me for not meeting her narcissistic needs, and for independent thinking. Granted, I was also a PIA kid with an attitude, but 95% of that was due to her being a sick individual in a sick cult.

  She does not justify herself at all now. She does not believe it needs justifying. The borg said your kid would not die if you beat her, and I didn't die, so their truth is proven (in her warped mind). Not only was she told I wouldn't die, but she was commanded to beat me.

  Yes, the talks from the platform characterized children as bulls that needed to be bridled and beaten into submission--there is no other way to teach children.

  Once I tried reading her the scriptures about exasperating your children (can't remember the exact quote right now), and well, you can guess how she reacted.

  There was some publication in the 80s that said parents needed to wean themselves off the beatings as a child aged and learned how to control herself. I read that to her as well, but she said I wasn't ready for that. On my high school graduation day, she was embarrassed to have refused to give me a gift or celebrate it, and tried taking that out on me (as she did with any of her personal frustrations). I held her arms back and informed her she would never hit me again. And she didn't.
  
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  Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

  by Divergent in

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  2. friends

  urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

  the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

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  Good. I'm glad they let their true selves show once in a while. Hopefully it repels the innocents.
  
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  Today's Text - Jehovah Is SPEEDING Up The Work!

  by Divergent in

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  2. friends

  today's text:.

  saturday, april 30. the little one will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.

  i myself, jehovah, will speed it up in its own time.—isa.

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  Classic brainwashing.

  Closing branch offices.

  Reducing the frequency of meetings.

  Reducing the # of hours required to call yourself a pioneer.

  Firing special pioneers.

  Didn't they close Gilead too?

  Selling off the world headquarters and downsizing.

  Stopping publications.

  Wow.
  
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  Start your own Prince rumour!

  by purrpurr in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i see the jw rumour mill is going into mad overdrive about prince.

  the stories seem to be more and more unlikely.

  so i thought as a bit of fun how about us here try to make up our own rumours?

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  Prince was a regular publisher.

  He counted his hours based on the play time of his songs that used backwards masking to witness.
  
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  Any thought behind your " Avatar"

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think that's the correct phrase?

  anyway when i first came here, that little picture that "the rebel" hides behind, was a self portrait of a very sad man, who simply had too much knowledge.

  now i feel after 7 months here, i should repaint that " avetor" give some happiness to the eyes, and a contented smile to the lips.. in short my " avetor" was a self portrait of a man with too much knowledge.

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  Mine is a photograph of me ;).

  I am drinking espresso, because that's symbolic of me. Behind me is Niagara Falls, which is symbolic of where I'm from.
  
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  Adam buried at the foot of Christ's cross. Are you kidding me.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i heard this on "the story of god".

  his blood trickle down through the rocks into adam giving.

  him life.

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  His blood trickle down through the rocks into Adam giving him life.

  Whaaa...??? Adam was resurrected because Jesus' blood dripped on his remains? What happened to Adam after that? Did he go on to form a punk band?

  
  
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  Did Jesus really suffer? Really?

  by purrpurr in

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  so over the course of three days he had a trial which doesn't seem to have bothered him much.

  he got whipped ok that would have been agony and then put on a torture stake/ cross/ whatever yes that would have been hell.

  but he was on it for a day and the whole thing lasted for three days.

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  Psychologically speaking--in this scenario that didn't even happen IRL to a nonexistent son of a nonexistent god--Jesus' death experience would be much less damaging than it would have been to a normal human.

  He knew the outcome was not only resurrection, but everlasting life ruling the universe. When I say "knew", I mean he really knew it--not in the sense most believers "know" Heaven is real. He really saw it with his own eyes.
  

  He also knew at any moment he had the power to stop his own suffering.
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  super heros

  by Gratefullyunstuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading the content of the 1 day assembly on another post, please tell me wt are trying to suggest members cant follow super hero movies/characters etc.

  the whole of my ex family wouldnt have a life if this happened!

  surely a wake up call for them....... but doubt it

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  Their powers come from demons.