Posts by rebel8

if anyone could tell me where to look or what the current position is by the society, i am most appreciative.. i would like to recommend the treatment to a jw relative, but don't want to get involved in an argument if it is forbidden.

rebel8

Let's just Photoshop an Awake! saying it's fine and dandy.

Heck, I will write the article and I'll say it's not only ok, it's recommended all xians get stem cell therapy even if it's not medically indicated. I'll say a GB member got one and there is evidence it was done in ancient Israel.

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All downloads no longer hosted on jw.org

by neat blue dog in

whether it's videos on jw broadcasting or pdfs on jw.org, all downloads used to be archived in-house at "assets.jw.org/" followed by the items name/code.

now clicking a download link retrieves the items from akamai.net, a web services company..

rebel8

I'm hoping the explanation is that all the people who used to be in Bethel have moved out and abandoned the religion. Now there is only 1 guy left running things with levers and knobs behind a giant curtain, like Wizard of Oz, which is why he needed to outsource some stuff.

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Calling All Who Were JWs Between 1967 and 1980

by -Crossroads- in

jw
friends

hello jwn,.

to introduce myself, i am still in the jws but learned ttatt some months ago.

i now ask this question to get more info on a past teaching.. between 1967 and 1980 was when the 'current understanding' of the wts was that organ transplants were cannibalism, and thus abhorrent.

rebel8

honestly and without bias, just what the view of JW culture (i.e the people in the congregations in general) was of organ transplants during that time

Unthinkable, unnatural like Frankenstiein, just not done.

And especially, what of the following choices was the penalty?

I don't remember hearing any jw getting a transplant. I don't remember knowing what the penalty was, I guess I had assumed it would be DF because it was so unequivically against the rules. Then they flip flopped some more in print, but in talks it was crystal clear we were not supposed to take blood or transplants--spiritual people didn't do that, and you could be bloodguilty for stumbling others.

Any pertinent explanation you feel is helpful is also appreciated.

Not directly about organ transplants per se, but I was treated with terrible disdain for having hemophilia factor prior to becoming a jw, and they saw that as equal to transplants (and worse than single donor transfusions FYI). The words said to me as a child included niceties, such as, "cannibal", "vampire", "demonic", "thirsting for blood".

I was specifically told I was "damaged goods like a rape victim and most bros won't want to marry you. You will have to die and be resurrected to cleanse yourself from this." (But then resurrected ones won't marry either, so I was doomed to be celibate forever.)

(And I was in the situation described by Ray Franz, that they changed their minds to allow a single lifetime dose but didn't tell me.)

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What should I do?

by Tameria2001 in

jw
friends

hello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.

originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.

anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.

rebel8

I would say no, I am not going to socialize with people who treat me like a second-class citizen--let me know by ##/##/2016 if you change your mind, otherwise I will make other plans.

By "people", I am referring to the non-jw relatives who are insisting upon this. Say if you want to participate in a cult's shunning ritual, you will have to do it w/o me.

My saying is always, "You be normal and let them be the weirdos."

Oh, whoops. I see you already attended & refused to leave. Good for you!

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Convention Weirdness

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

has that ever happened before?

rebel8

one change though We were going to preach a message of doom not hide in a bunker

In my area, the teaching was we'd do both...your book study was the hub of survival, as Outlaw said.

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I Don't Care If It Is A Cult ???

by thereishope in

shared a bit with my husband the other day about what i'd learned about cults.

how nearly (if not all) every box on the list gets checked for jw.

he got some upset!

rebel8

The word "cult" does not help everyone to get away from it, as this and many other stories show.

The issue isn't about accepting the C word. At the end of the day, it's about acknowledging it is a harmful high control group.

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Alleged JWs Topple Altars in Mexico City

by Funchback in

at first i though, "nah...".then, this part of the article spoke the loudest:.

the spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses in mexico did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the incident, which occurred at least a month ago.. read the article for yourself: http://www.thepublicopinion.com/news/associated_press/national/latin-america/ancient-temple-of-mexican-otomi-indians-damaged/article_fb03cbfb-d103-53b3-a6b6-a74959e1fe78.html.

rebel8

Here's another one. It claims the damage is consistent with other vandalism the JWs took responsibility for.

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Richmond, Virginia Convention Lowlights: 11-year-old Baptized / Porn Seen Accidentally

by Funchback in

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/article_8dec9e79-b243-5265-80ee-fee138922f80.html.

at this rate, soon they'll let infants get dipped:.

lindsey jackson, 14, of king george county was among the 33 people who were baptized saturday during the first convention of jehovah’s witnesses of the summer at the richmond coliseum.

rebel8

But, how horribly embarrassing for the teen. And the young people attending. A totally inappropriate subject to assign to a young person to talk about in front of hundreds of people - and then have it reported on in the newspaper.

This is the major issue with this story. It is abusive to let a minor child discuss this matter in a public presentation. Very sick.

I know I usually have an evil sense of humor, but even I am not finding this funny.