http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
utah jehovah’s witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says.
a woman is suing a jehovah's witnesses church in weber county after, she says, one of its instructors repeatedly raped her when she was a minor and the organization's leadership forced her to listen to an audio recording of one of the assaults.. the woman filed the lawsuit wednesday in 2nd district court, accusing the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses church in roy — as well as naming the alleged perpetrator, several church leaders and the watchtower bible and tract society (the religion's headquarters located in new york) — of knowingly allowing the "unfit" instructor to rise to a position of authority without warning members of his "dangerous propensities" and past sexual transgressions.. read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
Too bad she is only suing for $300,000. That is not enough of a punishment and surely is not enough compensation.
Maybe the statute of limitations has passed, but wouldn't the elders' actions be criminal too? They forced a child to listen to violent sexual material. Wouldn't that be the same as forcing a child to view porn?
ETA: Nope. But it has to be against some law, no? Endangering the welfare of a minor?
i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
Here is a translated version of a news article posted 4 hours ago, more recent than the others, and with different content.
Eloise Dupuis, 27, decided to give birth to her first child in a birth center. However, due to complications, she was transferred to the Hotel-Dieu de Lévis where we had to make an emergency Caesarean section.
..Ms. Zélezen was not with her friend for all medical interventions, but she was present at his bedside when he died.
"Is she could change her mind? Yes, she believes. Is she just said to his family and does not know? [...] I do not know if she accepted a transfusion and eyes were closed, or if it has a total refusal of blood transfusion. "
The friend of Eloise Dupuis said in an interview with VAT News she wants the family and relatives of the young woman for what happened. "There is an army behind it. We're going to change things, "she said.
A coroner investigating the causes and circumstances of the death of the woman. Its work should be finished in a few weeks.
i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
Phizzy, The article I posted earlier states there is a criminal investigation of the JWs because of this. The friends of the deceased lady are speaking out in the media. It sounds like something is being done, and something very effective indeed.
I do not recall ever hearing JWs being criminally investigated for interfering with medical consent, and I'm going to bet the times friends and family instigated that are few and far between.
This situation is unique and groundbreaking.
with all the "food" "fluff" larc has started, it has made me wonder how many here are vegetarian or meat eaters.. i like my meat in winter, but only in very small amounts.. summertime i go completely vegetarian and relish fruits and vegetables.. how about you??.
ana.
manners require time, and nothing is more vulgar than haste.
Antares92, You have revived several very old threads by adding the same exact post to each one.
I encourage you to stick around and read the other threads here on other topics. You will find them very interesting.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
utah jehovah’s witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says.
a woman is suing a jehovah's witnesses church in weber county after, she says, one of its instructors repeatedly raped her when she was a minor and the organization's leadership forced her to listen to an audio recording of one of the assaults.. the woman filed the lawsuit wednesday in 2nd district court, accusing the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses church in roy — as well as naming the alleged perpetrator, several church leaders and the watchtower bible and tract society (the religion's headquarters located in new york) — of knowingly allowing the "unfit" instructor to rise to a position of authority without warning members of his "dangerous propensities" and past sexual transgressions.. read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
Question: Why would the act have been recorded?
So he can relive it later on for his enjoyment, probably.
My first reaction is, even though I have zero proof this actually happened, the entire story is plausible.
i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
The article here indicates some of her friends doubt she refused blood. We'll see what the investigation reveals.
"I would like to to know if Éloïse consented to not having a blood transfusion, if she had the chance to express herself, if she had the opportunity to make an informed decision," Manon Boyer, Dupuis's aunt, told Radio-Canada.
A group of friends of Dupuis told Radio-Canada they plan to file a complaint with the Lévis police for criminal negligence.
"We don't know if she refused the blood transfusion," Cassandra Zelezen, a childhood friend of Dupuis, said.
She said they want to know if family prevented medical staff from providing a blood transfusion without the consent of Dupuis.
in their sick and twisted bubble that they live in, the jehovahs witnesses clearly have no idea about the logistical nightmare of disposing of 7.5 billion corpses.. when i heard an elder once say that it will be a joy to clear away the wicked from the earth, he actually had a smile on his face.. can they even begin to imagine what 7.5 billion dead men, women, children & babies looks like?.
"let the eye feel no sorrow".
sick bastards..
Welcome tor1500.
JW's are too germ-a-phobic to clean up the wicked.
I have information for you from the Society. Share this with them and all should be good, you know, because the Society has always had the Truth.
It has never been proven that a single disease is due to germs. – G24 1/16 p. 250
Do you know the germ theory has never been proven? And it cannot be proven, either.
If it had been proven, it would not be a theory. It has been truly said
that ‘knowledge without evidence is superstition’; and that applies to
the germ theory also. It is a leftover superstition of a past age, when
men feared that the earth was inhabited with hideous monsters that were
hiding everywhere, in the air, in the sea, in the darkness, etc., always
ready to jump out and devour him or make life otherwise miserable for
him…now that we have come into this enlightened age, we have discarded
the hideous monster superstition for want of positive proof, but we are
still just as foolish as our forefathers of old. We have turned from a
gigantic monster theory, to the germs, which are so small that we cannot
hear, see, feel, smell or taste them. Yet they are just as ferocious as
the monsters of old, ‘lurking everywhere, ready to attack man and send
him to an early grave. According to the inventors of this preposterous
idea, the germ’s only aim in life is to make life miserable for man. But
fortunately for all of us, it is only an idea. G31 3/18 p. 404
i have never understood this.
was it because of legal reasons?
i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.
That way you won't have to lie when they say no and they'll stop looking for the camera. You might also ask if they're recording it.
These are excellent ideas.
study edition.
january 2017.
(can someone put up a link please?).
I used to pioneer in cold weather, and am a lot more sensitive to cold than most people. I used to bundle up--many layers, as blondie described. But for me, the skirts always kept me colder. The air just goes right up them.
But again, I am way more sensitive to cold than most people.
I personally think they look like fundie cultists in that photo. I thought we looked the same way back when I did it too.
i have never understood this.
was it because of legal reasons?
i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.
I would just start the recorder before I went into the room, if it is legal in my location. Usually you can record your own conversations w/o the knowledge of the other person, if I'm not mistaken.
If you have a motive to record it then maybe you have enough motive to conceal the fact you're doing it.
When I had mine in the 1980s, I had no small recorder and had no interest in recording it. I went under duress and didn't care what was said--it wouldn't have affected the outcome. I had already left the organization at that point.
