Posts by rebel8

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Fear guilt etc

by zeb in

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friends

i switched on the tv the other night late.

there was a lady preacher joyce?

who said there are four things that prevent us becoming fulfilled in our lives.. fear guilt insecurity worry.

rebel8

ewwww....if it's who I'm thinking of. She is arrogant.

And wrong.

5. SUFFERING

Yes, suffering itself prevents us becoming fulfilled in life, not just fear of suffering or worry about it.

You can get proof of this by asking a starving child who is living in a war zone. It is not the fear of her house getting blown up. It is not the fear of not having enough to eat. It's the actual experience of having her house blown up, being homeless, being injured, having her innocent parents killed in a completely senseless act of violence, and the discomfort of starving that is causing her to be unfulfilled.

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BUSTED by a GYPSY

by TerryWalstrom in

jw
friends

busted by a gypsy__________________how do i know they are gypsy?i had some run-ins in l.a. many years back.

had they worn a banner it wouldn't have been more obvious.the patriarch wore a special hat with a silver spangled band.i've seen the old gypsy with his cane and his scowl.

he walks like a king or a panther at prowl.

rebel8

Interesting story!

In other news, I have never heard of tables set aside for disabled individuals.

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"The James Randi 1 Million Dollar Challenge Finally Terminated"

by unsure in

the one million dollar paranormal challenge was an offer by the james randi educational foundation (jref) to pay out one million u.s. dollars to anyone who can demonstrate a supernatural or paranormal ability under agreed-upon scientific testing criteria.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/one_million_dollar_paranormal_challenge.

aaaaand discuss!.

rebel8

Randi is awesome.

The site hosting the article you linked to is pro-supernatural and anti-Randi.

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Another big step on my journey

by LogansRun in

jw
friends

1987 attended the memorial for the first time, and the last time?

2016. it was a big step for me to not go last night i'm convincing myself that i really do have the strength to never return to this living nightmare of a religion.

you may recall i'm a fader my last meeting was 9 months ago and i have deflected a number of attempted visits and dozens of phone calls they now just hang up on my answering machine, as a matter of fact they did it again this morning.

rebel8

You did it! Congrats on shedding another shackle.

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Is it possible to decline preaching in the carts?

by Skepsis in

jw
friends

hi folks,.

i have a difficult dilemma.

since i'm not pioneering any more, i'm reducing my hours wasted at that artifact known as cart or trolley.

rebel8

Every moment spent participating in the religion sets you up as an example for others to join.

Come down with a series of illnesses. Just blurt out that you have it and then walk away.

explosive diarrhea
pink eye
Tourette's
severe phobia of carts
menstrual disorders if you're a chick

I dare you to start a jw urban myth that the demons are possessing witnesses who work the carts.

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It's about progress, not perfection...

by scratchme1010 in

i guess at this point in time and space i'm ok if there's an indication of things going in the right direction.. my jw father, who joined the jws in 1973 when i was 8, has always had all the characteristics of the stereotypical brainwashed born again weirdo.

as a jw he always felt the need to show that he was more devoted than the rest of the crop.

to him, life became very easy from that point on: "the bible", interpreted by the millions of wt publications, along with the information in the meetings and getting involved in all jw activities, were the answer to everything and anything in his life".

rebel8

Wow. It sounds like this gives you a lot of peace, so obviously it is worthwhile for you to do then.

We have handled abuse very differently.

I don't have enough respect or regard for my jw mother to do any of these things, and even if I did, she isn't capable of benefiting from it in a healthy way. It would just fuel her toxicity and cultiness to be forgiven and treated as though her words have merit. She would twist it into vindication that she has the truth and her abuse was justified.I am not guessing--this is based upon experience.

I am convinced the only right thing to do with a narcissist is cut them out of your life. But it sounds as though your situation was different.

come to terms with them...I said everything I wanted to say, asked everything I wanted to ask, and listened to everything they wanted to tell me. I also let them know that I am there if they need any help or support.

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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

by Crazyguy in

it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

they are an extremist group!

rebel8

Cult behaviors should be criminalized--that much we agree on.

I am having a hard time finding evidence banning a religion itself has a particular effect one way or the other.

If anyone has any evidence, please share it.

For me, it is important not to form an opinion based on a guess or emotions. I put that behavior behind me when I left the cult.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Love

by Cold Steel in

comments?

stories?

reminiscences?.

rebel8

Their so-called love is based on merit only. If you do what they like, they’ll put up with you. If not, they’ll drop you without hesitation

It's beyond that. You can have merit based on faithful acts, but if things happen to you that are outside your control* that make you unpopular, your social standing can be withheld or removed in a second.

*Examples:

-Being born female lowers your potential social standing and how much basic human respect you receive from fellow dubs

-I was born with a bleeding disorder and thus referred to as a demonic vampire

-I've seen people have a rumor/lie told about them and they are socially blocked without notice--they don't want the stank of unpopularity to rub off on them

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I'm 90% PIMO but events in Russia made me stop and think maybe Jehovah is real and helping

by Isambard Crater in

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friends

i'm at the stage where i'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the j.w's are not the true religion, but sometimes i get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the russian court trial being one of them.. i mean, j.w's are understandably fixated with attending the memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on monday or tuesday, instead setting wednesday 12 april as the date?

part of me believes the comments from pro-j.w's that jehovah moved events so they could attend the memorial.. it seems the j.w's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb australian royal commission team who did their homework.

it surprises me the russians seemingly haven't done any homework..

rebel8

Oh honey. They have been exposed many, many times over the last >100 years.

If a big scandal was big enough to expose them, none of us would have ever become dubs, because those scandals started way before we were born.

The problem is not the lack of a big scandal to expose them, but rather the ingrained defensive reaction dubs have to all disconfirming information-->denial and rationalization.

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Pretoria resident says - before high court in South Africa - he is the anointed one !

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

pretoria [ south africa] - an unusual urgent application served before the gauteng high court this week,in which a lyttelton manor resident, who said he is was known as the “anointed one” among jehovah’s witnesses, asked the court to officially swear him in as the worldwide leader of the organisation.. ernest gericke, in papers before the court, told judge bill prinsloo that the “first business of the christ is the legal establishment of the kingdom of god on earth, known as the jehovah’s kingdom.” .

gericke said this involved the the conducting of a covenant for a kingdom, which is to take place on april 11. .

“in order to effect the legal requirements for the kingdom this honourable court is requested to hear the public oath of the office of the king.

rebel8

Sadly, this is not much crazier than the dubs' actual beliefs.

They already believe a bearded sky daddy raped a minor girl in a totally holy way, impregnated her with his bearded sky son, who was transformed into an Earth baby for 33 years.

The Earth/sky superbaby went around doing magic tricks and giving weird speeches, but despite all of his superpowers, he's unable to show himself even a tad bit today. He is hiding in the clouds.

Then he deliberately allowed the humans to torture and kill him slowly, but not before hosting a dinner where he told his guests to pretend wine was his blood and bread was his body. Instead of being grossed out, the guests enjoyed pretending they were cannibals so much that it became an annual tradition to have the pre-funeral cannibal meal.

And the people who celebrate his resurrection are totally evil.

Not much crazier than a man wanting the court to appoint him to lead this BS.