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  New York's Bethel tunnels are no more . . .

  by neat blue dog in

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  http://www.brownstoner.com/neighborhood/brooklyn-heights/jehovahs-witnesses-brooklyn-heights-tunnels/.

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  The jw rumor back in the day was the tunnels were kept to allow the Bethelites to not come in contact with Normals.

  A cult with a commune that restricts outside contact.
  
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  Only Jehovah's people

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  today i went to a large talk.. there was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.. it was orderly and calm.. trash was put in the proper place.

  people were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.. the speakers were passionate and inspiring.. the entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.. it was march for science, not a dub ass-embly.

  so much for "only jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events..

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  no "please be seated" or "quiet" signs being carried around by some snot nosed kids

  LOL I totally forgot about that! How strange that they do this.

  I remember feeling as though I had to obey them because they were boys.
  
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  Your opinion is watchtower extremist?

  by poopie in

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  court gave 4 reasons you agree disagree.

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  Ditto to what Orphan Crow said.

  Letting yourself and children die to obey people in Crooklyn--for a reason not supported by science or scripture--makes them way beyond quirky and slightly conservative!

  So do many other teachings and acts that are kept secret. Need I tell you the gory stories of my own childhood? For example, why I was not allowed to wear a bra or shave because it would "make me have sex"? And why I was not allowed to take hormone pills that would make my bleeding disorder vastly better because it would "make me have sex"? And why I was called a vampire and demon possessed as a child because only Satan could cause a medical condition that requires blood transfusions? And why it was totally expected that I would bleed to death as a child as Jehovah's loving way of allowing me to pay the wage of death for having this disease so I might have everlasting life (which would be celibate because resurrected people can't marry)?

  How about the girl in my hall who took birth control pills for a different medical condition, only to have the whole hall gossip that she was growing a penis and had become a prostitute because of the pill? I heard she committed suicide.

  What about another girl in the hall who had herself declared a fornicator from the platform, at age 14, for making out with a boy?

  How about the boy from my hall who lost his privilege to carry microphones because he shaved off his sideburns in the 80s?

  How about the ban on dating when you're an older teen, because you're not "at the age of marriage"?
  

  Need I continue?
  
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  If you had to choose

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you had to choose to belong to 1 religion, i was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.. i realize most here are likely atheist (i would have to say i'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?.

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  Secular Humanism.
  
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  Only Jehovah's people

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i went to a large talk.. there was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.. it was orderly and calm.. trash was put in the proper place.

  people were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.. the speakers were passionate and inspiring.. the entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.. it was march for science, not a dub ass-embly.

  so much for "only jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events..

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  Today I went to a large talk.

  There was no arguing or swearing, just kindness and respect.

  It was orderly and calm.

  Trash was put in the proper place. People were even picking up litter that wasn't even theirs.

  The speakers were passionate and inspiring.

  The entire event was orchestrated by volunteers.

  It was March for Science, not a dub ass-embly. So much for "only Jehoopla's people" behaving like this at large events.
  
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  When Milton Henschel was tortured and beaten in Africa

  by Hecce in

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  *** yb77 pp.

  173-174 liberia ***.

  after sitting down, the witnesses were told to look at the sun, and soldiers watched their eyes to make sure they were staring at the blazing sun.

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  Of course, the source is a liar, so we need to take it with a grain of salt.
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  JW's And Their Education Level

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking about this.... in my congregation, i was literally the only one with universitary education, out of a cong from around 110 people.... and we're very close to a very big university, which makes it even weirder.. on the other hand... sooo many here with their own business, mostly small cleaning businesses.

  cleaning windows, or cleaning somewhere else... painters.... all have jobs that do not require any education level, cos they never had a decent education.. how is the composition of the jw people/congs that you know about?.

  how many painters... cleaners... compared to people with jobs that require higher education?.

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  I was from a big college town and jws were among the least educated groups.

  Ass-embly programs always included lots of drumming on the anti-education message. There were lots of talks about how great it is to start your own business. All you need is a squeegee--just walk around the mall asking the store owners to pay you $8 to clean their windows each week and jehoopla will manipulate the store owners' hearts to say yes. He always provides for you as long as you don't do something bad like get a full-time job, go to college or get a 2-door car.

  Or if you're a chick, you need a vacuum cleaner and bucket. Put an ad in the Pennysaver offering to clean somebody's house for 2 hours per week for $25.
  
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  Are there 'ultra strict' congregations?

  by jambon1 in

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  when i studied as a young adult, it was in one of those congregations.

  having viewed the religion as a quaint little band of christians it conpletely dumbfounded me when i was told about such rules as 1 - no beards.

  2 - you must wear a suit to meetings and while giving a talk.

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  Just when you think such an obscure rule didn't exist, blondie posts a published article about it!
  
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  Marry Only in the Lord

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night at the meeting, a local needs talk preempted the regularly scheduled part.

  an elder who is the most society following elder talked about loving god and then he talked about bible principles such as marry only in the lord.

  he talked of deut.

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  Good, I am glad they are sticking to their old school cult ways--otherwise, people become indifferent to its danger.

  Back when I was in, they did that all the time and the marked person almost always permanently left.
  
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  Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. friends

  i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

  banned.

  which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

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  Is there any evidence that banning a religion has a negative or positive affect on its growth?