I always liked the Theory that it made by Leonardo da Vinci - the image actually being himself. A sort of 'photography' if you like.
TheEdge
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Big News on Shroud of Turin
by Amazing1914 inyes, in 1988, jws were so happy to learn that carbon dating proved the shroud of turin was a fake from the middle ages ... yes, once again, jehovah's alleged organization was forward moving in its truth ... ahhhh ... but wait!
it turns out, that while the carbon dating was accurate, it was not understood that the 1988 test inadvertantly used a repair patch from the 1300's.
so, yes, the carbon dating would show this date.
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Current Favorite Movie Quote
by CinemaBlend in"god is just an imaginary friend for adults.
" - morgan freeman, the big bounce
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TheEdge
''Get away from her you BITCH'' - Sigourney Weaver, 'Aliens' - classic!
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Suggestions For Taking The Elders And/Or Society To Court
by minimus indo you have any suggestions so as to effectively take these people to court if they went after you?
your thoughts would be appreciated!
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The WTS has a habit of settling out of court if they know they cannot win
Gosh - that makes it sound as if it's a common occurance!
I may have this wrong, but from other cases I have understood that the Law does not recognise the WTBTS as an authority to hide behind - in which case Nicolaou's idea is spot on, as the individual elders would then be guilty of harrassment.
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Hello
by Es inhello to everyone, my name is esther and i am from australia.. i was directed to this website from my ex husband who also was a jw.
i guess in the truth we still are as we have not been df or disocciated ourselves.. i just wanted to say hi.
this is a great website, i had been brought up in the truth and had only decided to leave about 2 years ago, when my marriage was failing,i'm not a person who lives great by other peoples rules, especially when i dont agree with half of them.
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Hello Esther - it's sad when people realise how much they've missed because of JW, but it's great to hear that you can experience these things through your son. As you never indoctrinated him, he'll have Free Will - I think that's what a lot on here miss, the history of never being able to make choices.
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Faith and the Meaning of Life For Bozos
by Farkel inone who accepts it is either called a ?true believer,?
god is by nature ?good.?
satan is by nature ?bad.?
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Best 'Sunday Talk' I've sat through - thanks :)
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High rates of depression in Org.
by chuckyy ini noticed after being a jw for a while that many members of my congregation were having to take antedepressants.
(i counted at least 30 out of 100).
after a few years i too began to have bouts of depression and problems with anxiety.
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Lilybird - that is tragic, I am so sorry for your loss.I am shocked, but not surprised, at the elders' attitudes. I don't for a MOMENT imagine Jesus, or indeed ANY loving individual, would treat anyone in this way.
I think the excuse of ''bringing reproach on Jehovah's name'' can be translated as ''damaging OUR (JW) image'' - Image is so important to these people, sadly.
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Intro from new member
by lespacino1 inthis site was recommended to me by someone on another ex-jw site i began frequenting recently.
anyway, i am an ex-jw who has been disfellowshipped for about 7 years now.
i was raised as a jw from the age of 4, didnt take to it until i was befriended by a pioneer who was an elder's wife, and she began a bible study with me because my mom ddnt have time to have bible studies with all of my siblings and me, there are 10 of us.
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Welcome lespacino - it's really nice to see you have kept (most) of your family - Mums are so important no matter what age you are. Look forward to reading more from you.
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Did you gain any good character traits as a result of being a dub?
by beebee ini've never been a dub but i've been lurking around here on an off for about a year.
i came here to gain insight into my guy and it's been quite an eye-opening education.
thanks to all of you for all i have learned.
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I think I learned the true meaning of Love - after seeing so little of it.
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BLOOD card - in a nutshell
by TheEdge ini know they are renewed yearly, and here's my dilemma......my mother being a devout jw (and me well faded) - i know i am named on her card as next of kin (she mentioned it a few weeks ago) and over the years she has always asked me to stand against the blood issue on her behalf if she's unable to do so.
i have always agreed, because whatever i believe, i also respect the belief of others too.
now i'm wondering what exactly is on there........is it a flip flop?
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I agree with you Mulan - I too would support anyone's right to choose. What concerns me is that this choice is not based on Bible priciple, but on instruction from the WTBTS which could change at any time.
On the Blood Card I have seen, it has no Blood Substitutes listed, just a breakdown of whole blood components (English) - maybe this is different in USA.
Many thanks for all the feedback, much appreciated.
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Russell and Pyramids
by TheEdge ini bet this is all old hat to you regulars on the board, but occassionally when i look for something, i find more than i expect.
was mulling over the 1914 thing (607 etc) and discovered :-.
i thought this was a hoax, then clicked on the link to ''thy kingdom come'' - so now what to believe?
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rebel8 - the link works ok for me (you have to click (x) out of first page that comes up) - tried to copy and paste, but that didn't work - sorry.