when i was a devout jw i would literally look at "apostates" picketing the assemblies and want to spit at them because i hated them that much and felt that they were of satan.
i remember one time i saw an "apostate" walking from the assembly and a friend of mine an myself were actually talking about confronting him and telling him off.
i just cannot believe how much i hated "apostates" when i was a jw.
Hang on - so an ''apostate'' is someone who speaks AGAINST the Watchtower? Or is it anyone who speaks against your chosen religion? Or am I being silly in thinking that it's anyone speaking against God's Word?
OR is ''apostate'' just another 'WATCHTOWER WEAPON' used to dismiss anyone else's belief and reinforce their 'superiority'?
bear with me.
i intended to respond to globetrotter's ''atheist thread'' as i remember (way back) reading that the origin of jehovah (as i recall) was that in mythology he was one of two brothers.
anyway, i could not find where i obtained this information so i tried to google it....still no joy.. i did, however, find something of interest (but i've lost the ufo thread to respond to, lol) - a quote from ''reconciliation'' (1928) by jf rutherford :- ''the constellation of pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of god''.
Bear with me. I intended to respond to Globetrotter's ''atheist thread'' as I remember (way back) reading that the origin of Jehovah (as I recall) was that in Mythology HE was one of two brothers. Anyway, I could not find where I obtained this information so I tried to Google it....still no joy.
I did, however, find something of interest (but I've lost the UFO thread to respond to, lol) - a quote from ''RECONCILIATION'' (1928) by JF Rutherford :- ''The Constellation of PLEIADES is the place of the eternal throne of God''.
BUT the society ended its belief that God lived in Plaeiades in 1953 (WATCHTOWER Nov 15, 1953).
Sorry if this has been posted before - it's all NEW news to me (both 1928 and 1953 being BEFORE my time).
what a bummer!!!!
following on from another crap week at work, i consolled myself with the fact that today was friday and looked forward to a long weekend beering it up, going to dinner tommorow night at a girlfriends, lazing about etc etc all good weekend stuff.......and then....... i couldn't find my wallet.. i've just about torn the house apart looking, retraced all my steps from when i last had it (i paid for some petrol up the texaco garage last night), searched underneath my car seats, underneath the sofa, all my pockets, cupboards, drawers, no stone unturned etc etc i've just given up now and cancelled all my cards, and put the 80 that was in it down to a lost cause.. i want to know 3 things...... 1. has one of you lot pinched it?.
2. what am i gonna do for beer money this weekend.
....and you HAVE asked at the Texaco garage? As that's the last place you used it.?
i am just interested in if the books are ''closed'' - or may a vacancy arise if one drops out?
(this is what i understood from my youth) - if so, and a ''new'' anointed emerges, is it ever known who he/she is replacing?
if not, then there could always be those professing to be anointed on earth this all seems a bit vague to me...does anyone understand my ramblings?
I see Poztate - so you mean that the ''Remnant'' are a ''Means to an End'' (no pun intended). ie.: As long as there is always one / some surviving, then the JWs can ''legitimately'' exist.....I did understand that anointed are replaced if ones ''fall away'' (although I have never understood WHY someone who has been hand-picked by God WOULD choose to leave)and the 8500 number seems higher than I remember it 10 years ago...
Thanks for your input - and the laugh
i was discussing the 1914 "this generation" doctrine with my jw mother the other day and she said something that made me laugh my head off.
i told her that the wts were wrong on this belief so why does she put so much faith in them.
she told me that jw's were not wrong on this believe but just back off being so dogmatic about it but that they still feel that the generation of 1914 will see the end come.
they probably have to wait for the "generation of 1995" to die off a bit.
1995? have I missed something else? lol - and I NEVER knew where the 1975 thing came from - I just had to accept it as a FACT. Now I see it's just bad maths with no foundation.
i am just interested in if the books are ''closed'' - or may a vacancy arise if one drops out?
(this is what i understood from my youth) - if so, and a ''new'' anointed emerges, is it ever known who he/she is replacing?
if not, then there could always be those professing to be anointed on earth this all seems a bit vague to me...does anyone understand my ramblings?
I am just interested in if the books are ''closed'' - or may a vacancy arise if one drops out? (This is what I understood from my youth) - If so, and a ''NEW'' anointed emerges, is it ever known WHO he/she is replacing? If not, then there could ALWAYS be those professing to be anointed on Earth This all seems a bit vague to me...does anyone understand my ramblings?
i was just sitting here listening to a song by breaking benjamin called "rain" and it reminded me of the witnesses.. ""rain".
take a photograph, .
not a dollar or a crowd could ever keep me here, .
''I Will Survive'' - Gloria Gaynor :- ''Now go, walk out the door, just turn around now, cos you're not welcome anymore...'' lol
when i was a devout jw i would literally look at "apostates" picketing the assemblies and want to spit at them because i hated them that much and felt that they were of satan.
i remember one time i saw an "apostate" walking from the assembly and a friend of mine an myself were actually talking about confronting him and telling him off.
i just cannot believe how much i hated "apostates" when i was a jw.
It's a very clever defence mechanism the JWs have though - as every time they are ''attacked'', it reinforces their belief that they are God's People........have had this said to me soooo many times.
i went to take my daughter to school today and right at the end of her line was a jw with her child.
seeing as i had to take my child to her line, i had to stand very close to her.
i seen her out of the corner of my eye looking at me.
It's self - preservation (on THEIR part) - and so they can FEEL superior, because they AREN'T.
Sorry - this makes me sooooo angry.
they had batteries in india, so i am told by a jw(i think it was iraq,actually!
),they have discovered all kinds of objects, suggesting that pre-flood people were almost as advanced as modern people.. look at the turin shroud,they certainly have printing?
(or whatever) to produce it!.
Yep, City Fan - that's why like the Da Vinci Theory
