Posts by Stromboli

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The pope

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the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Pole

I made a partial assessment

How does you partial assessment negates my all embracing one?

I was under the impression you had a problem with the political aspects of JP2's life

wrong impression, I have a problem with him as a christian leader. sorry, I may have worded it wrongly

Boy, that's the point of an analogy

I know, It doesn't make any difference he is not just a politician and it's not too general

You call the pope (head of the Vatican) a prick because the Italian health system sucks???

you made that conclusion discuss it with yourself

You really got pissed off by the information I pointed you to, right?

Yes I did, a bit of arrogance on my part well and your, but more on my part.

What did JP2 have to do with Stalin and Hitler (you didn't bring it up first, but you seem to have said you could answer that - or did I get it wrong).

Nothing. JP2 wasn't a pope when they were around

What would any pope have to do to avoid being considered "a prick"?

He shoudn't piss me off

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Pole now look here:

An analogy (hopefully not a strawman):

Clearly a false one as you are trying to assess a man that is the head of a religion without considering this aspect. (conclusion without using all the premises).(not mutually exclusive anyway)

It's pretty much the same with socialist politicians

A) Not it's not, he is not just a politician.B) N o politician would be allowed in office with his disability for the sake of the cause/country (to be proven e mpirically only , but you do that, in theory it's possible that a politician is allowed, ignore this one if you wish). C)The socialist system and the christian system are different therefore any conclusion has different premises (unless they coincide, you need to prove that).

to show your description made an exaggerated impression

Exaggerated compared to what? your partial assessment? yes of course then.

Sorry m8 but what I said to Country_Woman applys to you too "If you don't know much about logic why on earth do you have such strong opinions about it" I admit that if you didn't point me to that site I would have never pointed out all this errors, out of respect. I haven't done it with others and boy I could have...

The answer to your last question is "resign" because it's not about him (see comment from Valis) it's about us all

BTW thanks Valis, I'm glad you said it and not me

for the record:

in theory the pope represents Peter see Mat 16:18 in practice him and his closests have compared him to Jesus (this doesn't make any difference to my argument)

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Pole

Ok my mistake you didn't list them and didn't say you did. Ok......one step at the time....

you wrote

But he has had an interesting life as a man. He wrote good papers in pedagogy. He was a fairly good actor/playwright. And he definitely is a charismatic figure and much different from many of his predecessors.

now I'll re-frase my question

Did you list the positive to implicitly negate my nagatives? (where prick and the rest I said is negative and your remarcs are positive)

Edited to add: from outnfree

Your posts are rife with errors and show a great deal of ignorance about how the Catholic church works

I think your broad generalizations are inappropriate and mean-spirited

Ok

The older I get, the more I value kindness

Yeah it shows

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

You are forgiven, my child

Thank you

Thank you ScoobySnax

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Pole:

Now where did I negate the negatives in my original post? Please show me?

You didn't list negatives and I didn't say you did. I wrote "listing positives" wich you did.

Now there are 2 scenarios here:

A) By "listing positives" you were implying that that was countering my negatives.

or

B) You remarcs were unrelated to mine so your post could have being anywhere else.

you choose......

he is/was a remarkable man (and not a cynical politician).

Note that you are still making that mistake as the quality you listed and being "a cynical politician" are not mutualy exclusive. I don't have a site to point you to but I can tell you that knowing the name of a logical fallacy comes after being able to de-compose the argument.

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Now don't be harsh with me Kenneson I wouldn't of couse spit on you nor on the pope (the person). I meant the JW org and the Catholic org.

I wouldn't laugh AT you but I could use a bit of sarcasm and cynicism. I hope you will allow that. No harm intended.

You are a christian and I love you for that my friend. I just provoked you (not you personaly) to provoke critical thinking of both sides not just against JWs. I have no will nor the authority to judge you. So I have nothing to forgive you. You have done nothing against me. But if you are too one sided against JWs and not critical enough with catholics you have done something against yourself. Do not trust man. any.........

May Jesus have mercy on us and Jehovah be Glorified in him

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Pole:

I was fully aware that you could have argued that but note that I didn't compare jp2 with mussolini I compared a fallacy with a fallacy my friend. The comparison should have pointed you to the fallacy in your argument, but it didn't...... I was trying to be polite

You are listing positives to nagate negatives wich are unrelated. I don't know how it's called in that site

I would like to point out to you too (as you didn't read the posts of course) that I used the words "Not Intelligent Either" with somebody that call me and others "Fools", I don't usualy do it but in that case I thought it was fair enough. So I would be more cautios as how you use that word as it's very easy (as you have seen) to misplace it

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Pole: I could answer but pepheuga wrote it so you should ask him or you could research it yourself.....

Pole mussolini made trains come on time do you like him too??

Kenneson why would you be pissed at me? I've being coherent I spat on both....

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

Since you are capable (and willing) to shout harder then I do

They don't call me Stromboli for nothing.....

Country_Woman: I pray that the sun will rise again tomorrow regardless of you posting here or not....... BTW hipocrisy is not civil...

Thanks fleaman uk .......at last......

jeanniebeanz:

Seems to just be a way to piss off our Catholic members.

That it madam!!! that's why I started this post!!!!

catholics come here to speat on JWs and I don't like it because much worst happens in their religion, but look how people have reacted to the vilification of the pope...... vilify JWs as much as you want but don't touch the pope of which we know nothing about........but we respect him because he is not a bad guy and has many followers and he is old (the latter is the best as this way you even take away from him the dignity of being able to be vile)....LOL

Some go the great length to say some havy stuff on JWs and advocate right after for catholicism impicitly or explicitly.

I'm just exposing the hipocrisy of some members for whoever is willing to see it.....(many allready know .. you guy were the ones that didn't and I was kind of hopping that...)

Yes I know a bit forceful but hey...... I am sure you respectful people will forgive me ......

58

The pope

by Stromboli in

jw
friends

the pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.

unbelivable!

recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.

Stromboli

jschwehm

LOL

That's quite simply not true. I don't know where you got that but when somebody makes accusation like that is usualy reflecting his own fear or even his own inclination. he makes speaches we cannot understand and he shoudn't be there because many could do a better job but he is not interested in that he wants to stay put he likes his trone. That's no disrespect for old people at all it's just the realization that we become old and we have to let go at some things. He could do a lot without making speaches and letting a younger man in to do more much more. but he won't!!!

I could tell you a lot more reasons why I couldn't possibly have problems with old people but you are in the accusing business so I will let go on LOL

Under74 see...... what did I tell you......