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Court: Judges cannot get involved in Church Disputes

by Iamallcool in

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http://news.yahoo.com/court-judges-cannot-involved-church-dispute-152559467.html.

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Churches want their cake and be able to eat it also. Each justice of the SCOTUS should have their heads examined and in my opinion aren't qualified to render such a decision or sit in the position of justice. If a church wants to discharge someone for not TEACHING doctrines of their faith, I agree that courts should stay out of that decision process. In this case however, the church has won the ability to discharge someone if they are Black, Old, Married or Not, Uses a Wheelchair to get around or any of the other protected status's that we as Americans enjoy working in any other job.

Second point not to divert thread but look also at recent Oklahoma ruling. Judges are allowed to use international law including Shaira Law in their decisions. EXCUSE ME!! I'm not going to that state anytime soon. Don't want to be taken to court by some male acusing me of looking wrongly at his (adult) sister and wanting me executed for causing his family emotional harm.

Polgamy is illegal. But wasn't polgamy originally decided on by a RELIGION? And Government got involved and said "No" to that.

And to cases of theft, well then the churches don't mind the court system getting involved. They can possibly get their money back. Hypocritical at least but that is the system we live in.

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U.S. Army Policy Letter Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses And Blood

by Bangalore in

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u.s. army policy letter regarding jehovah's witnesses and blood.. .

bangalore.

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BotR Conversion is a subjective term. A military member can be a religious convert in his own mind by believing the tenents of his new faith. JW History shows that true Jehovah's Witnesses are part of the FDS, the heavenly kingdom recepients only. The rest of them are ASSOCIATES and fellow believers. The military membe is viewed as a close associate and suitable for kingdom blessings provided he continues his path to leave the world's military organization. The military member is just not listed as an "Unbaptised publisher" but can be verbally listed as an "approved associate". Such a fine line.

We have posters here who are still attending JW meetings but still state that they don't believe anymore. Are they not converts to the world? Sure. It's a fine line on either side of the fence.

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U.S. Army Policy Letter Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses And Blood

by Bangalore in

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u.s. army policy letter regarding jehovah's witnesses and blood.. .

bangalore.

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OK Folks. It's been awhile since I posted last but this Title peaked my curiosity. Thanks Bangalore. Unless the body of elders or the societies stance has changed which I doubt, any soldier, their status being active duty, inactive reserve, reserve, national guard, down to the exception of retired, CANNOT be a 'dedicated servant of jehovah' as symbolized by their water immersion (baptism). I was an active duty member (****) and could not get baptised until after my discharge.

The Army Memo is very correct in where an active duty member falls in regards to his or her medical care. The needs of the government comes first to the needs of the member. The government needs healthy, fully capable soldiers ready to serve all missions. When the members beliefs interfere with the mission, then action needs to take place. The Medical Board is there to look at the physical injury and determine whether it is temporary or permanent in which case the member could be discharged under several conditions. The Medical Board can also be convened to determine the mental status of the member. The member can be discharged as a consciencious objector, or held and punitive measures can be given up to and including brig time in which case the member will feel righteous because the elders would have informed him that this punishment is due to his staying loyal to Jehovah.

The elders have been trained themselves to say only enough to create the thought in the members mind that he/she makes the final decision. Never will the member be able to say that the elders told him or her to defy orders from their superior officers.

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Songs that express feelings towards Watchtower

by discreetslave in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjffzqtlwrq&nr=1.

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Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice.

Video

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Rant Against the Borg HERE! NOW!

by Mad Sweeney in

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do you have a particular set of issues that really honk you off about the borg?.

would you like to just vent sometimes without having to engage in a drawn out discussion of the topic?.

are you reluctant to post your rant on someone else's thread for fear of hijacking it?.

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whathehadas: You have a PM

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Rant Against the Borg HERE! NOW!

by Mad Sweeney in

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do you have a particular set of issues that really honk you off about the borg?.

would you like to just vent sometimes without having to engage in a drawn out discussion of the topic?.

are you reluctant to post your rant on someone else's thread for fear of hijacking it?.

inbyathread

Had a Dream two nights ago. Wonderful dream. Pre-Borg Dream. I was still in the Military and deciding which duty station to take for my final tour prior to retiring. Full military benefits, pension and a life ahead of me...... Then I woke up. I woke up to the Nightmare I live in now. Working 50 hours a week to pay the bills. Wondering what will break next and need to be replaced in the house. Wondering how I'm going to pay for the additional medical bills that just occured. Just wondering.

Then it occured to me that I got out of the military 21 years ago. 21 YEARS AGO. A whole new GENERATION of solders and sailors have gone in and left with full retiree benefits and I am here wondering.

And I believed it. I believed that Armageddon was just around the corner. Believed that it was the right thing to do, to give up my benefits, give up my pension, give up my life for Jehovah (The GB) The warning flags were there, I saw them but refused to see it. It had to be Satan trying to steer me away. I got out early. Won't need the benefits. Won't need the pension. Because I believed it. Now I'm here, just wondering.

Thanks Mad Sweeney for the opportunity to Vent.

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Suggestions On How To Get Rid of JWs Coming To Your Door

by minimus in

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any suggestions???

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Have a video camera at the ready. When they knock, answer with camera recording. Ask them if there is a clergy/laity class amongst Jehovah's Witnesses. When they answer 'No' then ask why do elders claim clergy privileges in the legal court system.

Keep the question calm and civil and don't show any form of anger.

Oh and the camera? Just tell them that you will be posting their answer on the internet.

Legal Note: I am not a lawyer. These are my opinions and should not be construed as a valid legal source.

In my opinion, recording their visit is legal as it is your home. Jehovah's Witnesses can limit what goes on in a kingdom hall (No recording devices, no note taking, no observers during Judicial Hearings) because they have that legal authority. You are a guest or visitor in that building.

When they come to your door, you have the authority to record what goes on. If they ask you to stop, you are not legally required to do so. Reason: It is your home.

Not only will this stop JW's from coming to your door, but it will certainly have a local and quite possibly a global effect when they are going out in the field circus. When they come up to a door, will they be thinking "will there be ANOTHER camera here as well?"

Just remember, No anger, no name calling, nothing negative. Keep your tone positive and upbeat.

I'm still waiting for the elders to come to my door. I've requested it but they haven't shown up.

And yes the camera is ready.

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Counselled for nodding at a df'd person

by keyser soze in

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i remember this happening to my dad, when i was just a kid.

there was a disfellowshipped brother in the cong, whom my dad had been friends with.

before the meeting, my dad just nodded hello to him, didn't even say the word.

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You were not to even make 'eye contact' with the person.

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Shirtless Mormons AKA "Men on a Mission"

by megs in

i am now thinking of becoming a mormon!!!

sounds like this lad is in a wee spot of trouble with the head mormonators.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/living/wayoflife/07/11/shirtless.mormons.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview.

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Ladies --- Enjoy

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The Convention Is OVER!

by B_Deserter in

thankfully i was able to milk my cold this week enough to skip friday.

saturday i sat with friends of mine and was able to sufficiently tune out everything i heard.

there was one guy giving a talk that looked just like david koechner, one of my friends wrote a note to me that she could just picture him with a cowboy hat yelling "whammy!

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Why does it have to be in a footnote?