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  Wouldn't it be cool if you could make someone see your perspective?

  by sweetstuff in

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  what i mean by that is this..i had a recent convo with my mom who insisted we had a good upbringing as jw's, my siblings and i and how hurt she is that one sibling in particular blamed the religion during a convo for his mental health issues and addiction.

  i tried to explain to her that while i don't blame everything in my life on the "religion" or how they chose to raise us in it, she doesn't get how badly it effected her kids, that she didn't get raised as one and cannot fathom the emotional baggage that comes along with marching into your first years of school as a jw.

  you know what i am talking about, the isolation, teasing and sheer torture alot of us suffered due to what we could not celebrate, engage in and participate in.

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  Frog

  I have had fantasies of taking the JWs in my life and tieing them into chairs and gagging them so they couldnt interrupt me and spending hours telling them all the shit I have found out about their so called TROOF.

  oh yes I think we've probably all been there! I don't know if visulaising and daydreaming about such things actualy helps to vent it or just makes it worse?...

  ss, I know what you mean, I don't think anyone but he people closest to you in your life now could possibily understand how your lifes experiences have affected you. I know how you feel, I really do. x
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  BIRTHDAY PHOTOS

  by Es in

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  hey all, i went out on saturday night with my friends for my up and coming birthday.. had a great night, here is the link to the album.

  enjoy.

  http://kelthorn.gallery.netspace.net.au/ess-28th?page=1.

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  Frog

  yey for birthday! wish i could have been there...next year for sure! much luv xoxox
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  HELP! I got a call from an elder today!

  by stillAwitness in

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  an elder in my hall finally called me after 7 months after me moving out on my own.

  he was inquiring about how i was doing and which hall i needed my publishers card sent too.

  (of course i did not ansewr and he left a message) up until now, my parents still think i go to meetings (although even my mom has been wondering why my publishers card has not been sent over) i keep stalling insisting i don't know why and that i am regular at meetings and service.

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  Frog

  hiya still hon, fair enough for taking the 7months or so break that you needed in order to get your head around thing, no point in sabotaging your life until you're strong enough to deal with all the repercussions, sounds though that it might be time to face up to the music though while you can do it with dignity, and better it come from you than someone else. They don't need to know that you haven't been going all this time, just tell them you've been inconsistent, and that you've decided to step away permanently for a while or whatever you need to say. Can only though recommend that you're sure of everything you say before you say it, they will be more comforted if they can see that you're unwavering in your decisions and that you've got good reasons for them, even if they disagree and will no doubt struggle with them. Just tell them what they need to know, don't overdo it at this stage, is what I suggest anyway, let them get used to the idea as gradually as possible, but also be prepared for the soul saving onslaught from the, because it will come, elders, family, friends etc...it all goes away in time though, just hang in there :* kisses x
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  my cat died today... i need consoling...

  by theinfamousone in

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  this is the guy that sat on my razor blades the one time i was thinking of cutting myself... this is the guy that everytime my dad beat me, would come to my room and lay with me... this is the guy that one time jumped into the bathtub with me while i was crying after a brutal beating, the cat hated water... this is a cat that was more family to me than my own father and mother combined... this was my best friend... .

  today i had to do the hardest thing i ever did, i had to choose to have him put down... and as he fought the vet, and tried to bite her, i put my hand on his head, and he stopped struggling... and as they put the last needle into his leg, he purred until he died... the vet says she has never seen that before... this was my best friend and i had to kill him... fuck, im a baby, but i miss him soooo much.

  the infamous one.

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  Frog

  so sorry bro about your pussy cat, mustve been a bloody tough time for you :( you did the kind and least cruel thing though is the lil fella was suffering, even if you couldn't explain it to him. i know how comforting clever kitties can be, i remember crying my eyes out when i was living at home completely distressed during my fading time, and the family cat would jump up on the bed and put his paw on my head, it was beautiful and so comforting.

  i hope that you're able ot endure the loss as best as you can, while celebrating his lovely little life, and the gifts that he gave you. pets teach us so much about life, they're truley precious :) kisses frog x
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  I feel quite sick after reading this

  by Sam87 in

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  myspace is to thank for this great little peice.... .

  warning - do not read any futher if you have a weak stomach.......... .

  a christian wrote a letter to the editor of a newspaper and complained that it made no sense to go to the kingdom hall every sunday.

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  Frog

  so true 'abandoned', what a bullshite analogy, lol quite funny really in a stupid kinda of a way??!
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  HEY YOU AUSSIES

  by tijkmo in

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  so do you think you'll be winning them back then.

  well do ya?

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  Frog

  yer all signs point to a decent pommy whipping hehe tis one of the few things we do well, so please dont begrudge us this one luxury lol x
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  "Add your Caption" time again.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  Frog

  Hey you guys don't really consider Beavers to be rodents do you??! I guess it's like us and those confounded possums, and roos? x

  "Clear-cutters get it in the neck."

  PMSL! lol...now that was funny hehe x
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  PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

  by Dark_Princess in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

  is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

  look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

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  Frog

  yes very true Moshe, and all without that little pooh brown book I'll never forget how friends of mine in my early 20s during my fading days picked up a few copies of the recent WTs I had and were really shocked at the way the literature was structured, with all their typical rhetorical questions, with prescribed answers backed up by other WT literature and own bible interpretations...I remember thinking yer I guess that is is a tad odd now, lol! Takes some time to see it through when it's all you've ever known. Hard for me to imagine how adults fall for it, I guess that much I'll never understand. x
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  PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

  by Dark_Princess in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

  is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

  look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

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  Frog

  what beautiful and logical reasonging Moshe :)) x
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  Are they idiots??

  by nonamegiven in

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  2. experiences

  on my years as a jw i have always had doubts.

  i have dismissed these as me being overly critical or some such nonsense.

  now i'm on my way out the door, well i"m out the door i'm just working on shutting it right now.

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  Frog

  hiya again nng, i can fully relate to your line of questioning, and know how hard it is to do so after having respected to many you may have been once to close to in the org. the things that i respected though in those persons was their knowledge of their faith, and in the WT interpretation of scripture etc it certainly in most cases wasn't due to any accademic ability on their part. It is then natural to question as you are. The thing is though that those people didn't necessarily solicit your praise or respect in that regard, you freely gave it as you once like them were on the same path, so naturally you admired and possibly aspired to be like them in some ways. It really is you that has changed not them. It is difficult though when you feel like the whole world of possibilities is opening up to you not to feel as though you are moving past them and possibly above them, I struggled myself very much with that very thing, and must have at times come across as being a little arrogant and patronising. I think now that we will always outgrow and grow apart from people throughout life, it's part for the course really. Even though I hold no ill will to most of the former jws i once knew (well all bar a couple perhaps) I know longer respect them or look up to them or envy them in any way, we're such different people now. Somehow in their minds for those that stay it suits their sense or reason, or their lifestyle, or perhaps they're too trapped, or maybe they've just been in it so long that they can't face up to the fact that they might have lived a life that was a lie. All those individuals in the org have their own motivations and reasons for staying or leaving. Despite the damage I know the org does, of which I like many others have been on the receiving end of, I have had to come to the conclusion that for some people being a JW for whatever reasons seems to work for them. I can only then analyse my own thoughts and feelings, and explore my own cognitive dissonance, that's all I am responsible for, and the only thing in which I have power and control over.

  all the best matey. frog x