ok, according to the rigcah, patdp, and ipalfam i and ii the jewish restoration prophecy fulfilled in 537 bc has an antitype in 1919 ad when the wt officers were released from prison.
this is obviously a central teaching of the slave.
they say they were exonerated of all the charges that caused them to go to prison, and because of their faith they were accepted as the slave at that time.
537 BC - Jews return to Jerusalem from Babylon
1918-19 - A bunch of men return to NY from prison
Sorry...I just dont see the connection
2005 - The fact that I returned to my bed after going to the bathroom in the middle of the night this morning can also serve as the antitype.
by that, i mean, some witnesses will not just now "out" themselves because of various fears and concerns.
some of us are still "in the closet".
so to speak, because we're not ready to expose ourselves to the "loving brothers", just yet---at least not 100 %.
Yes. I'm definitely in the closet and looking for a good opportunity to come out. BTW, this is a great analogy.
I empathise with a lot of the comments posted on this thread because of the repurcussions of coming out at the wrong time. The price may be too high to pay. I'm keeping my eyes open though. There seems to be some positive signs recently with the lack of growth and cutting back of the "spiritual food" ....It will happen.."In due time".
as an active witness, you won the lottery and offered to contribute a large portion of that to the worldwide work?.
- take the money and cover up your "wrongdoing"?.
- take the money and df you?.
As an active witness, you won the lottery and offered to contribute a large portion of that to the worldwide work?
Would they:
- Take the money and cover up your "wrongdoing"?
- Take the money and DF you?
- Refuse the money?
what is the wt publication you hated the most?
why did you hate it?
for me, it was probably that damn pink great teacher book.
The other one that wasn't quite as boring, but was far more embarassing is the Revelation, It's Grand Climax. More confusing that the Book of Revalation itself.
HAHA. That's so true. It really IS more confusing than Revelation.
They should replace the word "Revelation" with "Masturbation" for the title
let's face it...most of us were or still are a part of this org.
because we felt a need to bring some meaning or purpose into our lives.. at the beginning there are lot of things that catch our attention, seem to make sense and feel ourselves progressing as individuals.. upon studying, meditating, pioneering, reaching out for privileges, etc.
(doing everything the society pushes).
Let's face it...most of us were or still are a part of this org. because we felt a need to bring some meaning or purpose into our lives.
At the beginning there are lot of things that catch our attention, seem to make sense and feel ourselves progressing as individuals.
Upon studying, meditating, pioneering, reaching out for privileges, etc. (doing everything the society pushes). Did you reach a point where you felt that you hit a wall?
- Reaching out for privileges no longer is fulfilling and significant to you personally
- Pioneering, been there, done that....doesn't do it for you
- Bethel, ditto
- Study and meditation, in order to keep progressing you need to accept the 'deeper things of God' like the ridiculous interpretations of the Isaiah, Daniel, Revelation book.
I feel that there is no limit to growing genuine spirituality. However, when it comes to the WT brand of 'spirituality' you reach a stagnation (is that a word?) point.
Has any of you experienced this as well?
Time to move on....
it's interesting to speculate about the fact that legal authority may have been removed from the governing body.
with the intent of protecting them from appearing in court.
when they announced that the organization was to be led.
I can assure you that, people do get 'stuck' in the Society! Just because you've been in Bethel for decades, doesn't meanyou still believe all of it - or even any of it. But what are going to do if you leave? Say good bye to your position? your
"friends" in the "truth"? Your relatives?
metatron,
You hit the nail on the head with this point! As a former bethelite, i have seen this attitude personally. Bethel elders and wives who have been there for years couldnt imagine leaving, not because of their tremendous faith but because they have become comfortable there. You dont necessarily have to share the belief system to be at bethel...just be fed and given a roof over your head.
i saw this on another thread that there are rumours of a new songbook announced at the dc.
i hope they get rid of all those "heav'ns", "giv'n", "tho", "e'en", "vivacious", "efficacious" lyrics.
with thise lyrics you can party like it's 1899.. also, please get rid of that song that sounds like the warner bros. bugs bunny song.
No there's another one.
Gosh...i cant remember the number.
it's the tune that plays right before porky pig goes "dbdbdbdbdb...that's all folks!"
i saw this on another thread that there are rumours of a new songbook announced at the dc.
i hope they get rid of all those "heav'ns", "giv'n", "tho", "e'en", "vivacious", "efficacious" lyrics.
with thise lyrics you can party like it's 1899.. also, please get rid of that song that sounds like the warner bros. bugs bunny song.
Oh yeah..I remember one more that needs to be put out of its misery:
That one song where you sing the first 2 verses a usual but on the third verse there's an extra line at the end where the note keeps getting higher and higher until the whole cong. is forced to screech like wild monkeys to hit that note.
i saw this on another thread that there are rumours of a new songbook announced at the dc.
i hope they get rid of all those "heav'ns", "giv'n", "tho", "e'en", "vivacious", "efficacious" lyrics.
with thise lyrics you can party like it's 1899.. also, please get rid of that song that sounds like the warner bros. bugs bunny song.
I saw this on another thread that there are rumours of a new songbook announced at the DC.
I hope they get rid of all those "heav'ns", "giv'n", "tho", "e'en", "vivacious", "efficacious" lyrics. With thise lyrics you can party like it's 1899.
Also, please get rid of that song that sounds like the Warner Bros. Bugs Bunny song. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Maybe they can get brotha Prince to help them out...they need all the help they can get.
What else about the kingdom songs makes your hair stand up straight and gives you a major case of the goosebumps?
hi, i am new to this site.
i have been an ex- jw for about 10years now, and this is the first time i have done this.
( trying to avoid the "apostate" label) haha i would love to hear from some ex- jw's, and see if they have and are going thru some of the same experiences that i am.
Welcome!
Warning: Once you start posting, it can get strangely addictive....
From a fellow newbie.
