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  607? 587? What does it matter

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  personally i believe that 607 is not the right date, but here is another point of view.. does 607 or 587 or 609 or 586 or 1914 really matter?

  yes but only after you have a pivotal date.

  5 starting from the pivotal date.

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  In short, the Bible gives only a relative chronology and one needs to convert this into an absolute chronology otherwise such chronology hangs in the air without a peg as it were. The Monarchy in Israel ceased about 500 years before our Common Era so a date based on an event is required to connect the data of the kings with our modern period or calender..

  scholar,

  Thanks for the replys but ..
  You call me naive then you gloss over my question by restating my point as if it is your own.

  In short, the Bible gives only a relative chronology and one needs to convert this into an absolute chronology otherwise such chronology hangs in the air without a peg as it were.

  This is my question to you and every other witness that believes in 607 and 1914. It would apply equally to anyone trying to make a prophecy out of the 587 or 86 dates.

  Maybe my first post was too wordy and my questions were lost on you. Here they are again:

  What good is a prophecy that lives or dies; stands or falls based on archeology?

  and

  What good is the bible if you have to be a historian, archeologist, Hebrew and Greek scholar just to understand it?

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  Are we really to believe that this prophecy could only be understood after the relevant archeological discoveries were made?

  Thanks scholar, or anyone else who believes in a time prophecy based on a date that cannot be assertained pruly from the bible.

  In the future scholar I will try to be self deprecating enough so that you wont feel the need to call me names. :) Thanks again.

  IPSec Bachlor of BS, Masters in crappy guitar playin
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  Bring your pens & paper it's written review time

  by New Worldly Translation in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  true or false

  1. the written review was fun.

  2. you didn't bother with paper and just wrote on the review itself.

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  1. F
  2. F
  3. F
  4. T
  5. F

  6. The sister in front of me with the tight sweater
  7. Choking to death

  8. A lot
  9. A little bit
  10 didn't like either you dummy)
  11. One

  Now my question.

  1. Did anyone ever cheat to get a better score? You can right your Ts in such away you can change the to Fs in case you get the wrong answer.
  2. Now that its call the oral review, did you at least once think about sex in connection with the name?
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  Sitting or Standing?

  by LittleToe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a recent thread brought this to mind:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/86271/1.ashx.

  i had a male friend, when i was a jw, who was taught by his mother to always sit when he pee'd.

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  I do what ever the spirit directs at the time proly about 25% sit 75% stand. I have to agree with bikerchic. That stuff is nasty around the rim, but if you stand there is no way around it, its gonna spatter.

  If I had any ambition, I'd invent a splatter proof commode. Better yet have a stand up urinal in every bathroom.

  Heatmiser you right too! Standing out side, bleedin your lizard in the wide open spaces is great too.
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  Trying to get to know people on the JWD

  by cindykp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i havent been here that long, and just trying to get to know a little more about the people im chatting with.

  i know some dont want to share too much info, which i understand.

  so.............im divorced, have 3 kids, lived in florida for 15 years, now back home in wi.

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  First name: Ip (

  Married: Yep

  Gay: More like manic

  Kids: Nope

  IPSec

  Wow is that your real pic cindykp? heheh I hope this is the right color of grey.
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  Ozzie's Weekend Poll #127

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, we're early this weekend!

  well, you know what they say, "the early bird catches the worm"?

  and we need to take full advantage of the days which have been "cut short"!!

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  Checking out the hot sisters in the Awake only once a month? Damn.

  She's hot, she's hot, nope, hot, hot, ehhh passable, hot, not.
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  607? 587? What does it matter

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  personally i believe that 607 is not the right date, but here is another point of view.. does 607 or 587 or 609 or 586 or 1914 really matter?

  yes but only after you have a pivotal date.

  5 starting from the pivotal date.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  IP_SEC

  In short, the Bible gives only a relative chronology and one needs to convert this into an absolute chronology otherwise such chronology hangs in the air without a peg as it were. The Monarchy in Israel ceased about 500 years before our Common Era so a date based on an event is required to connect the data of the kings with our modern period or calender..

  scholar,

  Thanks for the replys but ..
  You call me naive then you gloss over my question by restating my point as if it is your own.

  In short, the Bible gives only a relative chronology and one needs to convert this into an absolute chronology otherwise such chronology hangs in the air without a peg as it were.

  This is my question to you and every other witness that believes in 607 and 1914. It would apply equally to anyone trying to make a prophecy out of the 587 or 86 dates.

  Maybe my first post was too wordy and my questions were lost on you. Here they are again:

  What good is a prophecy that lives or dies; stands or falls based on archeology?

  and

  What good is the bible if you have to be a historian, archeologist, Hebrew and Greek scholar just to understand it?

  and

  Are we really to believe that this prophecy could only be understood after the relevant archeological discoveries were made?

  Thanks scholar, or anyone else who believes in a time prophecy based on a date that cannot be assertained pruly from the bible.

  In the future scholar I will try to be self deprecating enough so that you wont feel the need to call me names. :) Thanks again.

  IPSec Bachlor of BS, Masters in crappy guitar playin
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  Thanks to you islanders

  by IP_SEC in

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  justa thanks to you of the british isles and mostly liverpoolanders for loaning us paul mcc.

  ipsec

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  Alright, I admit I had one too many beers when I made this post but... all I gotta say is one thing

  Admiral halsey notified me
  He had to have a berth or he couldn?t get to sea
  I had another look and I had a cup of tea and butter pie
  (the butter wouldn?t melt so I put it in the pie)

  IP (the original tool) Sec
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  Anyone wanna pick apart the special talk?

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did jesus suffer and die?.

  did anyone want to pick apart the special talk?.

  geez this thing is more of a manuscript than outline.

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  LT
  

  Why did Jesus suffer and Die? is the theme

  IPSec

  PS: Your song book isnt pink is it? :P JK

  PPS: Thanks for getting my talk up for me!!! great! :)
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  607? 587? What does it matter

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  personally i believe that 607 is not the right date, but here is another point of view.. does 607 or 587 or 609 or 586 or 1914 really matter?

  yes but only after you have a pivotal date.

  5 starting from the pivotal date.

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  IP_SEC

  I can't make up my mind, NP or IP, hmmmm, I'll go with 'its the CCIP Training Pyramid'

  Its to remind me to study for BCRAN, most boring ccnp test to me.

  IPSec (future CCIE VOIP class)
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  Goodbye everyone

  by holly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its time to leave.

  i have had all the answers i need to make a firm decision.

  thank you so much everyone for your replies, for talking to me over the last few weeks and for some of the humour.. i believe the jws are right and that they have the truth.

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  Safe travels holly,

  IPSec