i was always under the impression that jw's couldn't participate in politics because that would mean that they were a part of the world.
yet, i found an interesting article today suggesting that some are involved.
see "analysis: nepal one month on.
Re: Unions:
My dad was an elder and the job he had was part of the union. He always paid his dues, but when strikes would happen, he'd cross the picket line and we at home would begin to receive death threats and such. I specifically remember answering the phone (I was about 10) and someone said my dad's family was going to die because he crossed the line. Scared the crud out of me!
Ash
i have been dfed/daed for nearly 7 years now.
long story.
anyway my mom has shunned me ever since.
Funny how its ok for her to associate with my siblings that were never baptized, including one who was dealing drugs for 7 years and 2 who had kids out of wedlock, but not me.
I know how you feel. My mom is no longer a dub either but she still shuns people and drops people who don't believe exactly as she does. Right now, I am being shunned because of 2 things.
1. I am in association with a friend of mine who is a lesbian.
2. I didn't answer back her last email to me and pat her on the back for selling her home for half a mil.
Actually, she had started talking to me again after the first one, but when I didn't answer back her email because I was busy with my new baby, she sends me an email saying, "We will never email you again since you are obviously jealous of our good fortune." This was not true because I had told hubby how cool it was that they'd sold their house for way more than they bought it for. They were in the process of moving from CA to TX, so I just skimmed the email and kept on going (kinda hard to type with a baby in your arms).
My other brother who has been killed off by her on numerous occasions and is once again back in her good favors tells me I am lucky that she's not talking to me at the moment. I can't see that, however. I have this need to have her in my life no matter what the cost (this is a long story as to why this is). I need to get over this and just accept that I can't have my mom, or at least the mom I want to have.
Hubby says she's jealous of me, which is why she lets my other brothers get away with the same crap and doesn't shun them (one of my brothers has lots of gay friends, but mom doesn't shun him for associating with them.)
My mom told me that she was only going to talk to our kids and my oldest said, well if she's not going to talk to you then I am not going to talk to her.
Ash
i have finally decided that i've seen enough.
i have written my official dissassociation letter from the organization call "jehovah's witnesses".
would someone please give me the address and example of a letter head to the society.
BTTT
sorry this is off topic, but it has been bugging me for months, what does that mean???
TIA
Ash
hey everybody, .
who has experienced this : ever since leaving the jw's, i've been trying to make "worldy" (i hate that word !!
) associates.
I have this same problem. I am bad at keeping friends. I always find something wrong and end up getting upset and stop talking to them. I hate that about myself. My mom does it, she's doing it to me now.
Ash
long time, no post.
:) i was just curious when the memorial was this year?
is it at the end of march, at full moon, right?
Nisan 14th is April 23rd according to my Jewish Calendar.....and no memorial here, most likely we'll be having a family seder :)
Thank you, I was hoping someone would say this for those who plan on doing it in their homes. If you do it on the night the Dubs do it on, you will be one day behind and actually miss the real memoria/passover celebration. Dubs are wrong every year with the way they calculate nisan 14.
Ash
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my wife just got word that another couple in the local congregation will be divorcing.this will be the third one within 2 years,all couples in their 20's-30's,just like us here.. anyways,he committed adultery,got a std and she threw him out;the children are devastated.he was known for flirting with any attractive woman,married or not,christian or not.. what upsets me is that these people all went to the hall acting like righteous christians and pre-meditating their family-breaking adultery.meanwhile,i'm treated like shit because i don't attend all meetings here,they must have a wager on my wife and i.like i told the wife before<i'm not going anywhere and i value my family.
The divorce rates in the Org must be the highest anywhere. Everyone that i grew up with
in the hall is divorced. Every friend i had that is still a witness is divorced, except for one
couple. Its so sad, i attribute that to being forced to marry someone who is a witness
rather than marrying them because you are in love.
Luckily i married a "worldly" man and we are as happy as can be. Now going on 5 years
strong.
Same here, I married the guy I got DF'd over and we are going on 13 years this September. We have our moments, but I swear I love him more everyday. I often think of the guys I left behind when I chose to mess around with him instead. My brother told me that there were several guys in the cong. who wanted to date me, but I never knew it cuz they were too shy to ask me out. They were all about 5 years younger than I was anyway, but hey it did feel kinda neat to know I was liked lol. I thought I wasn't so I went and found my own hah.
Ash
well saw him on the academy awards last night...ok, np.
today on the oprah show, chris rock was on there tooting bout how prince had an after oscar's party, with many there including himself.
and how prince did a few tunes.....hhmmm wonder how many from his cong were there, you know the reverant window washers and carpet cleaners.... no, just bad worldly associations.
Y'know I've read the articles that say that he is a JW, but I think that he might not be baptised. I mean, the only reason he is a JW is b/c his wife is one.
No, it was his mother who was a JW, and it was her deathbed wish that he become a JW, and I believe he was baptized as a JW for her.
Ash
i could get there early, and save you all some seats!
at least i would have someone to talk to after the meeting
I went to my df'ing, my then boyfriend/now hubby went with me. He asked me why I went and I couldn't come up with an answer. Right after it was announced, I walked out. Yes I did cry because I was not where I am today about the org. I got DF'd for fornication, not cuz I found out they are a bunch of liars ;)
Ash
But also remember much earlier we used to have 8 days assemblies & the sessions ended at 9.p.m does anyone remember that?
Yes, I remember, I was 8 but I remember. My dad was an elder, so I can remember as far back as when I was 3, having to wait at the hall while he was in the meetings for hours after the talks had ended.
Luckily, my parents didn't buy into "the end is coming, sell everything and go into full time pioneer work."
Ash
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looking at how the jw's treat sisters compared to brothers, it would seem that the jw's think that men are superior to women.. is this what the bible really says?.
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oops I forgot to comment on what I was really meaning to comment on and that was that my mom always covered her head when she prayed in front of any baptized male. She even does it now and she's been out of the truth for over 10 years now.
I knitted her a prayer shawl so that she would have something pretty to use when praying, instead of a pot holder, or whatever happened to be handy at the time.
I don't cover my head, I just don't do the praying. I have hubby do the praying, since he's the head of the household. He hates it cuz he never knows what to say and feels silly trying to fumble around for words. As you can see, we don't pray as a family that often. My parents never did either. We never prayed over dinner (unless it was a special dinner), we only did it if there were other witness friends visiting us, almost like a showy display of how good JWs we were. My dad was only good mr. elder when doing his duties. In his own home, he didn't act like one at all.
Ash
