I joined back in 2005 but I haven't been on the board since, but decided to come back and join yall since I'm more stable in my beliefs after leaving the org and my mom's crazy beliefs behind. Now I can handle talking about my JW past and not get sick at the thought of it :) I've posted my testimony in my bio if you wanna take a peak at who I am. Am glad to be here with yall... Ashton
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WELCOME NEWBIES - all of you! Check in here, I'm losing track of you.
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini just saw the eighth post by botheyesopen.
i noticed aliciaj, dogaradodya, chicken little, cognac, hypnotic, mochalatte.. some have been welcomed and some have not.. .
we have so many i can't keep up so.... .
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Would you go to the Memorial?
by freedomfighter insince i was raised as a jw i have never missed the memorial.. now since i have been df'd i"m not sure whether i will go or not.
my wife is still a jw.
should i go for her sake or not?.
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AshtonCA
You know you don't have to go to a KH to commemorate the Memorial. You can do it right in your own living room, just look on a Hebrew calendar for Nissan 14 and partake of the emblems yourself after sundown. I'm not sure if the JW's have the memorial on the right night this year anyway. They many times do not because they use the wrong calendar to find out when Nissan 14 is. You can buy wine and matzah bread at the store and have a field day knowing you are actually partaking of something Jesus said to DO in remembrance of him, not just watch others do it. Just a thought :) Ashton
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As a Witness I Hated Personal Study- How About You ?
by flipper ini started a serious thread on cult mind control- so i figured i'd start a sarcastic funny thread, or serious, your choice how to explore it , on personal study !
i got so sick and tired as a witness with that expression being crammed down my throat !
" personal study " they told us !
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AshtonCA
LOL RE: Note taking! My mom would not let us have notepads because all we would do is doodle on them and not "pay attention" to the talks. If we didn't pick up our bibles and turn to the scriptures, my mom would know we were spacing out (which was easy to do when it was one of those droner oner elders who just would not shut up!) I'm now a note taker though. I've actually learned that it helps me concentrate way better, but then again, It's easy when you are sitting before a Baptist preacher who may let loose with a little spittle during his sermon (woohoo I love a yeller! Preach it Pastor!). No more dozing off due to sheer boredom. Ashton
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As a Witness I Hated Personal Study- How About You ?
by flipper ini started a serious thread on cult mind control- so i figured i'd start a sarcastic funny thread, or serious, your choice how to explore it , on personal study !
i got so sick and tired as a witness with that expression being crammed down my throat !
" personal study " they told us !
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AshtonCA
My parents didn't make us study before the Study. I did it because I wanted to, or actually because I wanted to answer a question during the study so I'd just highlight a few answers. Also, my friends were all forced to study theirs so I didn't want to be the only one with no yellow highlighter in mine, so I'd underline, even if it wasn't really the answer lol. I was one of those who basically underlined everything hahaha oh well, at least it looked like I was studying. I remember I'd go to the KH with my friend but we'd have to spend an hour or more studying before we went because her mom would make her study every Saturday night. I guess there is nothing wrong with that. I enjoy my personal study time now, but I'm not doing it out of some magazine either. I enjoy studying the bible and doing my daily readings. I actually look forward to my morning study time. Who'd have ever thought I would enjoy studying something, and actually look forward to the next time I could do it? Ashton
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How many Memorials have you attended and missed?
by JH insince 1987, i must have went to about 16 memorials and missed about 5.
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AshtonCA
Hi, it's been ages since I posted on here. I probably should just say I'm a newby since no one would know who I am anyway. But I just wanted to say that I don't attend memorials in a KH. My family celebrates the Lord's Supper in our home, and we do so according to the Jewish calendar, not the JW's idea of when the Memorial is because many times they have it wrong anyway. We also keep Passover as well. I believe the Last Supper and Passover are actually not the same nights. The Last Supper we keep on Nisan 14 at sundown and the next night on Nisan 15, begins passover. This year we will be eating unleavened bread for a full 7 days, if I can convince my family of that fact lol I've only missed 2 memorials since leaving (being kicked out of) the JW's. I should probably post my testimony at some point so yall know where I'm coming from. My entire family now shares in the Last Supper. We also do communion many times during the year, either in our homes or at Church. We just did communion on Christmas Eve at a friend's house during the Christmas party. What a great way to remember Jesus' birth and life. God bless, Ashton from CA
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WTBTS and the Cross
by Honesty in.
does anyone have any idea why the cross is such a stumbling block to the wtbs and the jehovah's witnesses?
1 corinthians 1:18 describes their belief system to a "t".
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AshtonCA
Sorry to double post, but I was thinking about John 20:25 where it talks about Thomas wanting to see the marks of the nails in Jesus hands before he'd believe, well I noticed the plural nails in the KJB and decided to see with the NWT says and look at what it says below.
KJB: John 20:25 says The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
NWT: John 20:25 Consequently the other disciples would say to him: ?We have seen the Lord!? But he said to them: ?Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe.?
If Jesus were indeed crucified on a torture stake, as the WTS teaches, this scripture should not have had "nails" as plural because the way they say that he was killed was hands over head with hands on top of each other and a single nail driven through both hands. So, this word should be singular "in his hands the print of the nail" not nails.
Ash
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WTBTS and the Cross
by Honesty in.
does anyone have any idea why the cross is such a stumbling block to the wtbs and the jehovah's witnesses?
1 corinthians 1:18 describes their belief system to a "t".
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AshtonCA
I have not read all of the posts here, so I am sorry if someone already said this, but when Russell formed the org, his original symbol was a Cross inside a Crown, so at one time, the cross was used and its members actually wore them as symbols of their faith.
The reason I have heard is that who would want to wear something that a family member died on or by. I.e. if a family member was shot, who would want to wear a gun as jewelry.
I have also heard it said that wearing a cross is like worshiping an idol, and this one I find absolutely ridiculous.
My mother is deadset against wearing a cross or having one in her house at all. I find this type of logic still mind controlling and trying to take the Christian out of the religion. After I was saved a few months back, a friend of mine that we had shunned for many years because she had left the org and then went back into a church and my mom said she had stepped back into babylon the great, so we shouldn't have anything to do with her (remember my parents and family left the org 10 years ago, but my parents still hold the beliefs and customs). So once I was saved and out from under the org's hold, I contacted this family friend and apologized to her for my own actions toward her and she sent me a cross made out of silver and I LOVE IT, it is so pretty!!! I wear it to church!
Ash who was saved and is now born again and goes to a Baptist church (wow how things change!)
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Week of May 23, 2005 Service Meeting
by TheListener insong 194.
12 min: local announcements.
read accounts report and donation acknowledgments.
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AshtonCA
we never had a family study once the entire time i was a witness.
I think we may have once or twice, but it was never regular, I mean my parents never had us study the watchtower before the watchtower (I had friends who's parents made them do it every saturday night). My parents never made us read the bible on our own or with us, except for after a book study or after a meeting that they didn't believe what was being taught, then my mom would get the bible out and tell us the real truth. I was always surprised that my mom and dad stayed in for 45 years considering how many times they would say no, that's not true, here's the truth. My dad was an elder for 17 years during all that too. He was never home and was always off dealing with something in the KH.
Ash
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Something the speaker said yesterday that got my wife thinking. Advice?
by PaNiCAtTaCk ini was working yesterday so i wasnt at the meeting but the speaker in his talk made comments about 1914 on several occasions and towards the end of his talk he mentioned that if any new ones in attendence didnt understand the signficance of 1914 or how we know that christ started ruling in 1914 that they were invited to ask any jw in attendence to explain these things to them and they would be happy to.
this really got my wife to thinking because as a 28 year old jw who was raised as a witness and who has always been very active in the ministry she couldnt explain 1914 or any beliefs that we have as witnesses in regards to 1914 other than things havent been the same in the world since this pivotal date.
something as simple as this comment from this speaker can be the first step into seeing the errors in the wt belief system.
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AshtonCA
Hi Panic,
Here is a site that helped me out a lot it's the CARM.org site http://www.carm.org/jw/1914.htm
Ash
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The saddest song you've ever heard
by littlerockguy inwhat is the saddest song that brings tears to your eyes just about every time you hear it?
mine is harry chapin's cats in the cradle
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AshtonCA
The Christmas song called Christmas Shoes. I sobbed like a baby the first time I heard that song.
Same thing with the theme song to Romeo and Juliet
Ash