isn't that an oxymoron?
The 6 billion rotting corpses might make it a bit unpleasant though.
But think of the fertilizer! If you're lucky you will have one of those wicked worldly families that live next door that has LOTS of kids .... so you will have lots of rotting flesh to bury .... just bury those babys and children strategically under where you plan on planting your garden.
Wow ... what a great way to put all those dead babies to use.
-ithinkisee
isn't that an oxymoron?
Def'd ....
I would love for you to start a new thread that scripturally explains the paradise hope for JWs.
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
Scholar, JCanon,
My issue is really not with EXACTLY what year it is. My only interest is in the fact 607 BC is a bogus date.
I could care less if it was 586,587,588,589 or whatever. The point is merely that the Society is wrong on one of their most important dates
Garybuss said:
The 607 stuff isn't relevant anymore anyway.
Actually, this date is still VERY relevant to the rank and file. It is still a date that points to EVERYTHING that supposedly qualifies the Governing Body as the SOLE CHANNEL. it is a date that is mentioned several times in this weeks congregation book study:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/96060/1.ashx If you questioned the organization on something ... the elder response is STILL .... they are the CHOSEN CHANNEL. Which then leads to asking the elders ... how do you know? Which leads them to explaining 1914 ... which is based on 607 BC.
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
Scholar, you said:
A list of books that merely quote various dates and cannot agree on a single date is useless.
But ... man ... you were very very quick to bring everyone's attention to the Furuli book when it came out ... not letting everyone know the guy was a JW.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/44076/1.ashx
I have a feeling if a few books came out promoting 607 you would be listing them EVERYWHERE.
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
Again with the celebrated WT scholars
Who are these celebrated WT Scholars? I know most of the guys in the Writing Dept, as we were in the same Kingdom Hall for many years. They couldn't POSSIBLY be the ones you speak of could they?
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
Scholar,
First off ... there has been confusion about 586-590 ... certainly. But there is NO CONFUSION about 607 BC - because it is a made up date. All scholars (not you), archeologists, historians, religious leaders, and even the BIBLE agree that 607 BC is not even in contention.
Second, the only time I get confused is when I read the Society's literature.
A clear and almost unanimous picture comes into focus as soon as one ditches the mismatched dates of the Society's literature. This is why my pioneer/missionary book study conductor and his pioneer assistant cannot explain 607 BC.
The Society's chronology is like a bad supermarket tabloid. Some of it is fact, some of it is rumor, some of it is downright lies. The trick with a tabloid is to determine what stories are real and what are lies. WT Chronology is nothing different.
I am reminded of what my non-JW father used to tell me ... once you start with one lie ... you then need to tell tons of other little lies to keep the original lie intact.
607 is nothing more than this. Besides ... there have been 30+ page threads on this forum where you have had to admit you were wrong. I guess you're hoping that the newbies on here won't find it?
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
Scholar?
Books. We want books ....
C'mon ... there's gotta at least be one, right?
-ithinkisee
(Sad ... there isn't even a WT book that can prove it.)
do you think it's funny?.
not when seniors fall or kids or anything but when someone wipes out spectaculary and doesn't hurt themselves do you find it funny?.
last week my boyfriend was helping his brother build a deck.
Heh ... me and a friend were sitting at a traffic light and a guy came riding along in the gutter of the street on his mountain bike and he got to close to the curb and wiped out right in front of us.
I honked my horn and yelled "Yeah!" And I gave him the thumbs up sign. He smiled and kept on riding. He realized he had given us a great show.
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
A few more from my files:
The Encyclopaedia Americana – Volume 16 Page 31
“Nebuchadnezzar …destroyed Jerusalem … in 586 B.C.E.”
Light From the Ancient Past – Jack Finnegan – Page 223
“The final destruction of the city (Jerusalem) was in …586 B.C.E.”
The Story of Ancient Nations – W.L. Westerman – Page 69
“Finally, in the year 586 B.C.E. Jerusalem itself was taken.”
Encyclopaedia Britannica – Volume 15 – Pages 383
“On the 7th day of the fifth month 586 B.C.E. Jerusalem was destroyed.”
Yale Oriental Series Researches – Vol. XV
“Jerusalem fell in 586 B.C.E.”
History of the Hebrews – F.K. Saunders
“In July 586 B.C.E…a breach was made in the wall of Jerusalem.”
Unger, Merrill, F., Unger's Bible Dictionary, Moody Press, Chicago, 1966, page 782
"...Nebuchadnezzar promptly invaded his unhappy country and besieged Jerusalem for a year and a half. In 587 Jerusalem fell and numbers of its inhabitants were carried away captive to Babylonia..."
-ithinkisee
i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
Scholar,
I'm surprised you didn't provide me a list of books showing support for 607 BC as the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.
Oh wait ... there aren't any.
I'm surprised you didn't provide me a list of scriptures that support 607 BC as the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.
Oh wait ... there aren't any.
-ithinkisee
PS: I didn't find any books that show 588 or 589. I woudl be interested in those too. But even still - that is much closer than 607 BC.
