I saw him get in the face of a couple GB members. Pretty funny.
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Mister Coffee
by professor inwhen i was a teen jw youth, a bethelite couple from our congregation came back from bethel for a visit and told me a story about mr. coffee.
he was some guy that stood outside bethel often in the morning, protesting the watchtower society and came to be known among bethelites as mr. coffee.
does anyone here know who this person is?
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Vatican acknowledges evolution theory
by skinnyboy inhttp://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html
evolution in the bible, says vaticanfrom: by martin penner.
november 07, 2005 the vatican has issued a stout defence of charles darwin, voicing strong criticism of christian fundamentalists who reject his theory of evolution and interpret the biblical account of creation literally.
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ithinkisee
Although I have no desire to be Catholic, and I think the pedophile stuff really was disgusting, I have learned to admire some of the leader's sincerity ... and now their ability to use critical thinking skills.
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last days?
by mjs mouse, ben inrecently overheard some jw relatives talking, the term we're in the "last days of the last days" was being used frequently, i didn't want to ask them, it would of turned into an argument.
wtf does this imply?
is anyone else hearing this?
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ithinkisee
"last days of the last days"
Wins the "hanging on by the skin of their teeth" award.
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where's defd?
by in a new york bethel minute ini haven't seen him around lately... i hope he hasn't left us for good... maybe he's just waiting till he gets all the answers to the questions we've asked him and he's gonna return with the biggest, longest post we've ever read?
defd we miss you!!!.
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ithinkisee
it is inevitable.
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posting pics
by littlerockguy inhow do you post pics in a thread where just the pic shows; i have posted a pic but it didn't look like the ones that people post to just get the pic to show in its real size; how do you do it?
anybody?
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ithinkisee
What she said.
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I am such a Boob!
by Sparkplug into fill you in, i have to say that things have been a bit crazy here and i have felt overwhelmed.
in order to ease the stress, i concidered giving up my post as an officer of the charity organization i am in.... (not drop charity work) just drop some stress, because i feel the pressure of knowing that if i mess up on the books, we all could loose our job.
this makes me nervous because i am prone to dyslexic behavior.
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ithinkisee
And when I clicked on this link I thought I was going to see boobs.
Dang it ... that was gonna be MY LINE! ...
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Why stay married to a JW?
by kid-A inhaving read a recent thread on "mixed" marriages between active jws and non-jw (either faders or df'd) two things stood out for me.
first, there was a profound underlying sadness on the part of the non-jw poster (as there may also be on the active jw mates part) on the reduced intimacy of the relationship, both mentally and physically.
not being in this situation, but understanding what makes a marriage successful, i cant help but ask a rather harsh question....can anybody in this situation realistically envision how such a marriage can last in the long term?.
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ithinkisee
I had a definite point in mind where I was going to cut my losses had my wife not been as smart as she was.
I grew up in a "divided household" and I had a point in my mind where I knew I would not just sit around and endure what my mom put my dad through.
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Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.
by Odrade ina certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.
in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.
i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.
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I agree with LT. Focus on the deity of Christ. The fact alone that the Society has invested SO MUCH in discrediting Jesus (and there is even a paper trail) is pretty alarming.
This was a great example of Cognitive Dissonance happening with me - which is why I stick by it. (Two examples actually)
- A few years back, there was a bible study my wife and I conducted with a young, but very Christian family. The husband - very nice and sincere - said that with all honesty that he could (and had) read the entire New Testament (multiple times) and felt that the Trinity was very clearly taught in scripture. I was annoyed with him because I took the WT line that "anyone who reads the bible with an open mind could not POSSIBLY come to the conclusion that Jesus was God."
- Going out in service and meeting a pastor at the door. He calmly set us down and did some "seed-planting", methodically showing me and my wife how the New World Translation twisted texts to fit their doctrine by blatantly adding to scripture (or leaving stuff out). Rendering the same word differently in different places. His final words to me were - "If you don't listen to ANYTHING I tell you, listen to this - PLEASE go back and study the original Greek."
It works on JWs ... trust me ... it worked with me.
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Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.
by Odrade ina certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.
in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.
i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.
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Ask them to go through the Trinity brochure with you.
Find and photocopy the works they reference. (I have most of the scans for those if you want them). You know, the Catholic Encyclopedia, etc.
Get the early church father's works from the library (which the Trinity brochure talks about on page 7). Show the JW how the Early Church Father's believed the OPPOSITE of what the Trinity brochure tells them. (I have quotes available if you need them).
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Strategy: Jehovah's Witnesses and the Trinity.
by Odrade ina certain catholic xjw (jeff schwem) and i have been following the same blog for several months.
in this blog, the young woman has been documenting her conversion to jwism.
i have not always been so kind in my comments as jeff has been, but i have been honest.
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I am at a point where I seriously doubt the bible's credibility for a lot of things, but .... I think if I were to believe the bible I would have to say that it supports the Trinity. The MP3s floating around the Internet by Dr Walter Martin detail it pretty clearly and show how the Society has slyly changed things in scripture to make believeing the trinity seem ludicrous. While I agree it does mean going back to the original Greek, that is not too far of a stretch even for a JW - their own Kingdom Interlinear quite clearly points out their sneaky tactics.
- Everywhere that people in scripture worshipped Christ. The Society changed it in the NWT.
- Anywhere that the bible calls Jesus the Creator, the Society changed it in the NWT.
- Anywhere the Holy Spirit is mentioned, the Society makes it lower case, and never points out in scripture where the Holy Spirit even spoke to people.
- The early church fathers - the ones who, EVEN in the Society's opinion, supposedly - had God's spirit - believed that Jesus was God.
- The Society blatantly misquotes these early church fathers in support of the WT stand against the Trinity.
- The Society blatantly misquotes almost every religious and secular source mentioned in the Trinity brochure, to support the WT view against the Trinity.
- They use other bibles in support of their anti-Trinitarian stand. Many of these bibles - on closer examination - are from other cults that also have anti-Trinitarian stances, and therefore a natural bias.
I have more too, but do not have all my stuff available to me at the moment.
I personally don't think it is that difficult of a challenge - if a JW is up for a discussion about it.
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