I really want to thank all those who contribute to this site .... and for being my collective therapist.All these years I thought I was just screwed up ... its nice to know ONE of the reasons why.
Ditto back at ya Taylor...
i've been thinking about it in my sleep ... can sleep.
it's been less than a month since i stumbled onto this site while researching the roots of jwism for a character i'm writing on.
since then, i haven't written anything, haven't done much recreationally .... i've just been digging deeper through this site and simultaneously .... digging through my memories of growing up dub.
I really want to thank all those who contribute to this site .... and for being my collective therapist.All these years I thought I was just screwed up ... its nice to know ONE of the reasons why.
Ditto back at ya Taylor...
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i was on the silent lambs website and on it there are some quotes taken from wts publications; they are classic...absolute gems in support of the wts mind control, take a look...does anyone else have some great quotes...these are almost laughable if they werent so scary.. .
http://www.silentlambs.org/gbcontrol.htm.
we have a new date for armageddon brothers - 1975
Was this a stab at sarcasm exjwelder....
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i was on the silent lambs website and on it there are some quotes taken from wts publications; they are classic...absolute gems in support of the wts mind control, take a look...does anyone else have some great quotes...these are almost laughable if they werent so scary.. .
http://www.silentlambs.org/gbcontrol.htm.
I was on the Silent Lambs website and on it there are some quotes taken from WTS publications; they are classic...absolute gems in support of the WTS mind control, take a look...does anyone else have some great quotes...these are almost laughable if they werent so scary.
http://www.silentlambs.org/gbcontrol.htm
just came accross this interesting story, it's old news but still thought it was an interesting read.... .
she went to sleep and woke up 30 years later .
the real-life story of annie shapiro - who fell into a coma at age 50 in 1963 - is more remarkable than the movie based on her miraculous re-awakening.
great post, very moving...
i am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.
so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?
here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.
This has become one of the most popular and widely posted topics of late and without any disrespect to anyone who has posted...including me...WHY?
Should we care if the SOB's at the WTS view our site, as long as they dont try and close it down I couldnt care less...maybe someone who is having doubts will pop on here and see some sense...
G
of the waiting for the day class....
my parents went to the assembly this weekend.
they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.
the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!
They take their full share in seeing that their children remain quiet during congregation meetings. If their baby starts to cry, or their child becomes boisterous, they in their turn will take it outside for appropriate discipline.
*** Watchtower 1988 March 1 pp.23-27 Responsible Childbearing in This Time of the End ***
Responsible Childbearing in This Time of the End
That makes me sick its that frightening.
my parents went to the assembly this weekend.
they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.
the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!
My kids will grow up loving me and knowing they can come to me for any big or small problem.
Definately, thats the whole point of parenthood, its not about control or anything else like it, its about guidance, support and more than anything love.
my parents went to the assembly this weekend.
they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.
the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!
I would fear her and love her at the sametime. I learned a lesson and that is to not spank my kids!
I remember such notions myself, I firmly believe that if my partner and I are blessed with kids then they will be as far as I am able, free from all the hangups witness children have to contend with, they will be taught to be sociable as kids should be (unlike most JW kids), and more importantly they will have a voice and their personality will not be crushed as are most other JW kids.
That I have learned at least.
my parents went to the assembly this weekend.
they were telling me about disciplining children... the speaker was saying how all babies are born selfish and demanding for their own needs and not anyone elses.
the jist of the talk being about discipline, and training children ...ie taking them out for a good beating.. well, i don't know if any of you have ever 'just seen red!
Gill, Crumpet you have my sympathies you really do.
I have similar 'fond' memories however I felt extremely lucky and to some extent I still do and this is because even though i had the sh*t beat out of me as a kid there was one boy who got it much worse.My mother was strict but I dont doubt she loved me in the slightest she was simply weak and misguided in her endeavours to do whats best, even now she openly regrets some of the things she did and cant apologise enough.
Both my mother & I stayed with a brother and sister once (as a favour for letting them stay for an assembly one summer) and they had three kids, a lad my age or thereabouts and two younger brothers little sh*ts.
I think I was 10 at the time and i remember the horrible atmosphere there was in the house, they were quite well off in comparison to my upbringing but the kids ate cornflakes with water for breakfast every bloody day...(a vivid memory urghh ).
I remember the two younger brothers were at the age they were into everything if I am to be honest they were just kids. The eldest brother (who i think was called Ian) and me went to play football round the front. After a decent game we came back and two other kids had got a little dirty but none were hurt they simply had found an upturned boat and had been playing pirates...(another vivid memory). His mother decided to call the other two in and they refused saying they were having fun.
I remember the following events like it happened yesterday as opposed to 20 years ago: she turned to Ian (who had come in and said nothing) and slapped him....I remember feeling the sense of injustice, even my mother looked shocked and tried to help to resolve the issue. When his father came home he near enough dragged him up the stairs and fetched his belt (which i think had a name!!!) and beat the shit out of this poor lad...i remember the screams and the multiple times he was beaten at this point. This happened on a daily occurence or when his two brothers did anything wrong. Yes he got a beating every time his brothers missbehaved, how crap is that.
I would love to meet his parents now, I really would...I would have plenty to say, believe me.
So whilst I abhor spanking to this degree I do feel I was lucky, lucky in the sense that I didnt suffer like Ian did.
What do you think?
do you see a difference in the way you live now that your out of the "truth"?
more materialistic?
more "worldly"?
Totally...but the difference mirror all of those stated above, except of course being a drug taking pimp, or of course getting on the front page of Sports Illustrated....not that i have even read it or know what it contains...just thought it sounded good.