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Called JR Brown regarding Cano Pedophile situation

by LDH in

just called their media line:.

http://www.jw-media.org/contact.htm.

asked a young man named bryce where is the official press release on the cano pedophile situation.

bronzefist

Thanks Lisa.

Sad to say the Cano revelation will have very little effect in changing the way people feel about the organization. Reaction will be:

1. "See, this proves the end is near."

2. "Satan is going all out in attacking Jehovah's people.He exploits their weakness's."

3. "The Watchtower has warned us about the dangers of the internet."

Brown's comments will first be doubted....lies spread by apostates....then accepted as from the FDS. Found nothing in the comments that couldn't be explained away ala Orwell's 1984.

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She's Back! With a question about guns & JWs

by asleif_dufansdottir in

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hey, guys.... looooooong time no see.

some of you might remember me but it's been a very long time.

still in grad school, and have a new (sort of) hobby.. i've always liked guns.

Gun ownership is a conscience matter (2006). How much flak you receive depends on your location and the BOE. I've been at congregations where elders are hunters and there is no pressure from them if you own a handgun or rifle. I'm currently at a congregation where the rank and file will give you there negative opinion much like the papa poster. At my present congregation I get marked by some if I mention I love guns.

If guns were banned people who want to kill others would use something else...like the woman who drowned her kids in the bathtub. Would the world be a safer place if there were no bathtubs???

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What is the most objectionable thing you have heard off the platform?

by restrangled in

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i know many have quoted ridiculous statements from the assemblies etc., i just wonder what irked you most off of the platform in your own kh.. the one that sticks out in my mind was when we had a guest speaker on a sunday for the public talk.

i don't remember the theme but his main point was the starving people in africa did not need food.

he stated they needed spiritual food and would opt for that over a meal because they realize they could eat in the new order and there was no need to send any donations directly.

bronzefist

Posted this awhile ago. CO gave a talk stating there were never "innocent victims". If someone is molested in the Catholic church it is the victims fault for being in Babylon the Great.

No mention made of those molested in Jehovah's organization.

If someone is raped in a "bad neighborhood" it is her fault for being there. On and on.

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Ooooooohhhh...My "unofficial" DA letter...yup...got it in the paper!!

by HadEnuf in

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over the years here on the forum...i have read with interest many da letters.

brave people!!

not so brave.

bronzefist

Fantastic letter Cathy.

This is an organization that thrives on it's members fears. If the eldes call on you just look them in the eye and take your stand.

If you are half as brave as your letter implies, they will wet their pants and run out.

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Inquisition Room/You and B.O E. Anyone?

by bronzefist in

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recently had a sitdown with the entire body of elders.

five elders and little old me.

it wasn't a judicial matter.

bronzefist

Actually I had two similar sitdowns. Two elders each time. First told me, "We can't tell you not to come back here...BUT we have enough problems without you bringing us more."

Second sitdown different congregation, but offshoot of first (congregation had split into two)

"I really admire how you have held yourself together considering the terrible circumstances you had to deal with when you came into the "truth". I mention your situation to my new studies all the time....however; brother and sister "so and so" where here first. We can't ask you to leave BUT......"

My reply, "So if I stay here I will be going against your councel?"

Their answer, "Yes."

I've never been DF'd or put on any type of reproof. Go figure.

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Inquisition Room/You and B.O E. Anyone?

by bronzefist in

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friends

recently had a sitdown with the entire body of elders.

five elders and little old me.

it wasn't a judicial matter.

bronzefist

Wish I could give the details, but that would reveal too much about me in case any of them are lurking. Pretty sure they check in on this site every so often. I will mention one thing I learned from the P.O. women ALWAYS intice men into fornication.

They were the ones that ended it after 90 minutes. Their last question was, "If we ask you to leave this congregation, you won't take it personal will you?" Ooops .....did I say too much?

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Inquisition Room/You and B.O E. Anyone?

by bronzefist in

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friends

recently had a sitdown with the entire body of elders.

five elders and little old me.

it wasn't a judicial matter.

bronzefist

Recently had a sitdown with the entire body of elders. Five elders and little old me. It wasn't a judicial matter. Someone went to an elder and cried that I was treating him unfairly.( It's a long story let's just say I was the innocent mate in the affair.). That morning I was attacked and bitten by a dog.....it forshadowed the meeting I had with the B.O.E. Which turned out to be 90 minutes of comedy from my point of view at least.

My question is..has anyone had or heard of a situation where the entire B.O.E. had to stt down and question your motives.

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Why do elders talk to me and smile, and ordinary JW's shun me?

by JH in

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if i meet an ordinary jw, most of them will shun me.

if i meet an elder, they will look at me, talk to me, smile and make me feel as if i'm still a brother in good standings.. .

who's in charge here the elders or the ordinary little jw people?.

bronzefist

Unless the non-elders are true friends they will be cautious, because that's the lecture they get from the platform. Most elders have the mind-set that their armour is of a better quility and strength then the common rank and file. One part at a recent assembly encouraged everyone to warmly welcome back those that have been inactive. I guess those in your area were all sick that day and missed that talk. Oh, wait it wasn't a drama so that made it forgettable.

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NEW LIGHT? CAN'T AUX. PIONEER IF NOT LEGALLY SEPARATED.

by juni in

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informed by someone who is separated, but not legally, and was told they couldn't aux.

pioneer.

was told that it was always this way.. i can't remember this question on the form for aux.

bronzefist

Ok, I was told by the sevice overseer that a Br. Brown, who was a representative of the GB, told the elders attending the most recent local elders meeting that seperated couples can no longer Aux. Pioneer. I was told that this was NOT a local position and applied to ALL the congregations. It was NOT a personal viewpoint but came DIRECTLY from the GB. It had to do with how the congregation as a whole viewed those who were seperated. They each could be in "good standing" BUT their seperation causes "stumbling" because the seperation is not being "solved" by the couple.

Plus there is a HUGE increase in couples in the organization going the seperation route. My guess is that the GB is hoping this will stem the "floodgates". The Aux Pioneer thing is onlly a paper thing to begin with, but some feel that if they are "announced" as Aux Pioneers they will not be viewed as the "guilty" party of the seperation decision between them and their spouse.

I do not believe the CHANGE will be openly announced to the entire congregation. As soon as those who are seperated find out they are barred from this "privledge" more will know by word of mouth.

There are six individuals barred in my congregation and four in the adjoining congregation.The elders are pusing HARD for individuals to file for LEGAL SEPERATION if at all possible. The grounds for legal seperation are similar as those for divorce. Abuse, non support or spirirtual indangerment.

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Looking for Newest CD rom

by caligirl in

we are set to have "the discussion" with my stepson next week as to why we do not attend meetings anymore.

he was going to bring his cd rom with him, but said tonight that he is not going to.

we don't know if that is because he is chickening out on the discussion ( i hope not, because i will have spent the last 4 weeks reading all this vomit for nothing) or if he doesn't want to make his mother suspicious by asking to take it with him( which i don't doubt that he would have to do, given the control factor that goes on there).

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