Yes, and yes !!!! You are describing my brother-in-law, and my son-in-law !!!
I had a feeling I was on to something. I kept hearing stories from former sisters here who would say, "my hubby joined when I did to keep the peace.... when I left, he left as well."
Another one I kept hearing about was from people raised as dubs, "...mom joined, and since she wore the pants, dad just went along with it..."
And then of course the observations I have made in the last 3 or 4 years.
In defense of these poor namby-pamby men, I do admit that I can give in on an awful lot of things just so I simply never have to hear my wife talk about it again. I know she will only find something else to prattle on about, but at least I don't have to hear about THAT thing anymore!!!
And I also think it can be awfully intimidating at times when you are surrounded with all these folks who are just so damn sure of themeselves. It really does take awhile to realize that it is a defense mechanism. Only people who aren't sure of themselves act that way, to compensate for reality. Real, honest people know they don't know what the hell is going on, so they admit it. I guess where the namby-pamby part comes in, is the weenie thinks, "I don't know what the hell is going on, but they are so confident, maybe they are right. I will accept them looking down on me for not beleiving it all, since I am not so sure about things...".
A person with some huevos will say, "Knock that crap off!!! You don't know what the hell is going on anymore than anybody else!!!".
I am glad it is all good. Actually this post came from a conversation I had with another poster. It was posted by me at his request. So it is a good thing I am not in trouble anymore, or it would be all his fault!!! And like a true namby-pamby I would be forced to blame it all on him, and request that all premenstrual rage be sent in his direction.
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