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Thank you all so much!! I think I am going to spend less time in WT land...

by Check_Your_Premises in

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friends

i showed up here about a year and a half ago confused and in shock.

i was yet the latest victim of the runaway train that is the wt.

my wife joined the wt and i was surrounded by drones doing their level headed best to consume my family while i am at work paying for it all.

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Just poppin in to say hey!

I just wanted to report a bit on my vacation from the WT and JWD.

First of all thanks to those who responded with all your kind words. I do cherish my friends here so much. I know I will continue to need you all for support. Those who know me best know where to find me when they need mine.

I also must say that I have thoroughly enjoyed my time away! I can not escape the WT because they have come to dominate the lives of people very close to me. There is simply no escape. They are in my home! But by reducing the footprint of the wt in my life to the barest of minimums has really expanded my horizons and raised my spirits.

And even when the day comes when my family finally does move on, how can I forget the abomination of the wt and the countless, nameless victims in their wake? How can I forget all the lessons I have learned in helping wt victims? Has any knowledge ever come to me at a greater price! Again, I will be here fighting the wt with you all. It just won't be my whole life anymore. I have to take on the slow, steady gate of a long distance runner rather than the short-sighted, desperate all-out I have been pursuing.

We can only have so many thoughts in a day. By dwelling on these poor, lost, incredibly obnoxious souls more than we have to, we close ourselves off to the opportunities that surround us.

I must also say that being married to a jw is so incredibly maddening and taxing, that the last thing I need is anything else getting me worked up. I need every shred of patience, calm, and wisdom to keep from flipping out. Because every time I do flip out, I know I am simply wrapping another chain and lock around my family, and satan smiles.

So take care until next time. I am sorry I am not here more to give the support many of you need. Maybe in better times. I also know that there are plenty of good folks here who are helping you get through and past your little dance with the wt.

Well that is enough time for me in Russel's little fantasy land... (ha! it just occurred to me that Russel is kind of the Disney of religion, he created a neat little theme park that helps his sad followers to escape the real world)

Back to the real world me....

CYP

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Thank you all so much!! I think I am going to spend less time in WT land...

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i showed up here about a year and a half ago confused and in shock.

i was yet the latest victim of the runaway train that is the wt.

my wife joined the wt and i was surrounded by drones doing their level headed best to consume my family while i am at work paying for it all.

Check_Your_Premises

I showed up here about a year and a half ago confused and in shock. I was yet the latest victim of the runaway train that is the WT. My wife joined the WT and I was surrounded by drones doing their level headed best to consume my family while I am at work paying for it all.

Thank you so much for all you have done to get me through this time. If it weren't for some of you I would definitely be divorced, and possibly even in prison with the blood of some prominent JW's on my hands. Here is a little tip for you, don't leave a Marine with no options and nothing to lose.

I think I have recovered from the initial shock of my wife's cult affliction. I have come to understand my circumstance. I have worked through the mourning and have accepted what my marriage actually is. I have a sound strategy that is being implemented over time. I plan to fight the WT with my dying breath, but I need to do it in a way that doesn't consume me either. If I allow that I have not only given what they have taken, but also everything I have left.

I think it is time to give up my obsession. I still have to fight. I still have to be engaged. But I am going to operate more on a part time basis.

As a result I will probably be spending less time here at jwd. I just get so filled with the negativity and rage over the abomination that is the WT and all they have cost me. It just isn't healthy anymore.

I am going to try to focus more now on my family, especially my children, my career, my new store, doing some good in this world, and enjoying the moments of my life.

The times and moments and circumstance always seem so permanent at the time, but people and opportunities just fly by never to return before you even get a chance to appreciate them.

I don't want to wake up someday like my wife realizing I have sacrificed so many precious moments and relationships on things I couldn't change, control, or that didn't matter.

I just want to be happy again. The less the wt is in my life the better.

CYP

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Big announcement after all DC have ended?

by Quandary in

jw
friends

i was told by a reliable source that the organization will be making a "big announcement" at the end of the summer when all the dcs have ended.

has anyone else heard this?

maybe this is the "new light" they have alluded to in recent wt study articles?

Check_Your_Premises

and John Lithgow in the lower left.

Imagine you are a brainwashed propaganda artist for a creepy cult, who would you want to kill more? John Lithgow or Ray Franz?

I am surprised there isn't a flaming rock smashing, and simultaneously obscuring the full title of Crisis of Conscience.

CYP

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Big announcement after all DC have ended?

by Quandary in

jw
friends

i was told by a reliable source that the organization will be making a "big announcement" at the end of the summer when all the dcs have ended.

has anyone else heard this?

maybe this is the "new light" they have alluded to in recent wt study articles?

Check_Your_Premises

The guy in the lower left hand corner of the picture posted first looks suspiciously like Ray Franz.

"ooooh is Jehovah going to send a flaming rock at his head when Armageddon comes!!!", thinks the artist drawing silly cult propaganda.

CYP

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Sending a Message to Brooklyn, Big Time!

by drew sagan in

jw
friends

well last night i was doing a few boaring things and then this idea just popped in my head.

i was thinking about differant ways that a true 'disturbance' could happen from the ground up in the organization.

the basic idea is this: .

Check_Your_Premises

Actually that is a brilliant idea... I think it was mentioned before the last memorial.

If we started pushing now, and other apostate sites cooperated, it wouldn't take much to create a big bump.

There are only a few thousand right now I think. What if just a few thousand more partook?

It would be annoying for them... but that is probably about all.

CYP

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How long do they tolerate you being "spiritually weak" in the beginning...

by Check_Your_Premises in

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friends

...before they give up on you and just label you as a theocratic slacker/outcast?.

i have picked up that many in our congregation are considered weak or irregular.

it appears that they are "encouraged" but eventually they are given up on and considered a "bad association".. my wife, even when she is at her most dubbed out, only makes field service twice a week, and she can only keep that up for a couple weeks.

Check_Your_Premises

I hope it doesnt take her 20 years to see the truth, like it did me (sigh)...................

Yeah me too! Cuz I won't be around in 20 years.

It is so sad when people destroy the relationships with the people who REALLY matter and care to follow delusions or seeking the approval of those who don't. You just can't ever get those things back. Once they are gone they are gone forever. And you are left with nothing but unbearable regret.

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How long do they tolerate you being "spiritually weak" in the beginning...

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

...before they give up on you and just label you as a theocratic slacker/outcast?.

i have picked up that many in our congregation are considered weak or irregular.

it appears that they are "encouraged" but eventually they are given up on and considered a "bad association".. my wife, even when she is at her most dubbed out, only makes field service twice a week, and she can only keep that up for a couple weeks.

Check_Your_Premises

Although she will become a target for some sisters to "encourage"

Oh yeah... they are all over her... and my kids.

To be expected.

They have nothing better to do, and if more people aren't buying their little dream world it is hard evidence to them that it might not be true. Can't have that. Must bring more into the fold to keep the fantasy alive. That is why I was wondering how she would be viewed with those kind of performance stats. She is always being encouraged.

I just have to keep playing the game and have faith in my overall strategies.

1. Protect the kids first.

2. Avoid persecuting or challenging her faith unless it violates 1. Build trust and rapport whenever possible.

3. Create an overall environment that provides a sound alternative and social structure to the cult.

4. Create a general awareness and aversion in the home to emotional abuse.

5. Make the free exchange of ideas and information possible in the home.

6. Avoid outright hostility with the greater jw community, and build trust and rapport whenever possible.

The crazy pioneer lady recognizes and actively works, manipulates, and guilt trips to undermine the above.

CYP

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How long do they tolerate you being "spiritually weak" in the beginning...

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

...before they give up on you and just label you as a theocratic slacker/outcast?.

i have picked up that many in our congregation are considered weak or irregular.

it appears that they are "encouraged" but eventually they are given up on and considered a "bad association".. my wife, even when she is at her most dubbed out, only makes field service twice a week, and she can only keep that up for a couple weeks.

Check_Your_Premises

She averages one morning a week in service, about 60% attendance at book study, and about 75% at TMS and sunday meetings.

How would this level of activity be considered in most halls? Weak? Average? Bad association?

CYP

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How long do they tolerate you being "spiritually weak" in the beginning...

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

...before they give up on you and just label you as a theocratic slacker/outcast?.

i have picked up that many in our congregation are considered weak or irregular.

it appears that they are "encouraged" but eventually they are given up on and considered a "bad association".. my wife, even when she is at her most dubbed out, only makes field service twice a week, and she can only keep that up for a couple weeks.

Check_Your_Premises

I am hoping they will get to a point where my wife is considered weak, and no longer worth their time.

I am encouraged in a way by the hard fight the nutjob pioneer lady keeps up. She and I are in the midst of a proxy war, whereby we both understand the real motivations for all we do. She understands my efforts in keeping her spare time filled with other activities. I understand her constant mothering and snooping. All the while my wife seems to be oblivious... wanting to only see the best in me and the society.

This psycho-pioneer lady, who after decades of dubness knows all to well what to look for in a person who won't "stay in the truth", is fighting so desperately to keep my wife. Maybe her concern bodes well for my wife's eventual exit?

We all have to look for signs of hope I suppose.

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How long do they tolerate you being "spiritually weak" in the beginning...

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

...before they give up on you and just label you as a theocratic slacker/outcast?.

i have picked up that many in our congregation are considered weak or irregular.

it appears that they are "encouraged" but eventually they are given up on and considered a "bad association".. my wife, even when she is at her most dubbed out, only makes field service twice a week, and she can only keep that up for a couple weeks.

Check_Your_Premises

...before they give up on you and just label you as a theocratic slacker/outcast?

I have picked up that many in our congregation are considered weak or irregular. It appears that they are "encouraged" but eventually they are given up on and considered a "bad association".

My wife, even when she is at her most dubbed out, only makes field service twice a week, and she can only keep that up for a couple weeks. She averages one morning a week in service, about 60% attendance at book study, and about 75% at TMS and sunday meetings.

She is considered a "project" by a whack-job super pioneer type who still talks to her like a "study". It is clear that she is considered to be "spiritually vulnerable", if not weak.

So how long in general before the cackling hens give up on such a person, even if they are really personable and they are showered with sympathy for having a husband who is a dirty rotten unbelieving mate?

I suppose more than anything it is a matter of having other prospects around that are more interesting.

CYP

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