well, last night i was completely determined to tell my wife just three things i had learned.
i was just going to focus on lies - not scripture, or stupid stuff ... just lies.. 607/1914trinity (trinity brochure lies)cross (reasoning book lies and archeaology).
if she starts to question other stuff, or if she starts in on a debate about the trinity, i was going to shut her down and let her know i am willing to talk to her about that - but not right now.
Ithink,
This might be a touch personal, but my sense is that you have made up your mind about the org. Now you are taking a "you can join me if you want to attitude" with the Mrs? If she doesn't join you, what is going to happen? Will you leave her?
Just curious.
Just trying to be a good counsel to you.
well, last night i was completely determined to tell my wife just three things i had learned.
i was just going to focus on lies - not scripture, or stupid stuff ... just lies.. 607/1914trinity (trinity brochure lies)cross (reasoning book lies and archeaology).
if she starts to question other stuff, or if she starts in on a debate about the trinity, i was going to shut her down and let her know i am willing to talk to her about that - but not right now.
My stuff is more user-friendly and less scholarly
That is what I am looking for. One of my strategeries is to have "the folder". It will be filled with very simple, very easy to follow "sound bytes" and data. It will be left laying around prominently. She is a woman. She will look through it.
Have you thought of hinting a bit to get an idea how your info will be recieved?
You know how concerned I am for you. I tried to have the "talk" and it turned into the "incredulous scream". Just don't get your hopes up. If you are anticipating a certain outcome, and you don't get it, or even worse she is completely obtuse, you will get frustrated with her.
For instance I have yet to get a dub to acknowledge that they can even understand the meaning of this sentence; "If the society asked you to do something that you felt was against God's will, would it be wrong to disobey the org?". That sentence literally does not compute. I might as well say, "does haircut you think dog is jellydonut?"
I guess I am just saying, expect to be dissappointed and you won't be.
Peace. Or peice if you prefer?
CYP
well, last night i was completely determined to tell my wife just three things i had learned.
i was just going to focus on lies - not scripture, or stupid stuff ... just lies.. 607/1914trinity (trinity brochure lies)cross (reasoning book lies and archeaology).
if she starts to question other stuff, or if she starts in on a debate about the trinity, i was going to shut her down and let her know i am willing to talk to her about that - but not right now.
Good luck, and I would love to get my hands on your research!
Let me know if that is possible in anyway.
You know I am pulling for you!
CYP
ok, god says you can't go to heaven or stay on the earth but he will put you in a movie forever to be who you want to be.ok so what movie do you choose?
and who are you in the movie?
just bored so i thought i would ask!
I would want to be Marlon Brando as Fletcher Christian in Mutiny on the Bounty.
Man-o-man was that little tahitian bird a looker.
"no no Flethca"
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i couldn't see a welcome thread for our new ex-elderette posting as anewme and wanted to say hi and ask what prompted her departure from dubdom.. welcome anewme!
Richie,
They were worried aboout you. Somebody started a search party thread yesterday.
Glad to see you are alive and well.
CYP
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i couldn't see a welcome thread for our new ex-elderette posting as anewme and wanted to say hi and ask what prompted her departure from dubdom.. welcome anewme!
Oh yeah. Welcome Anewme!
http://www.livinghopevideo.com/wcg.htm
i have this video and give it my wholehearted endorsement.
it is the story of the worldwide church of god which was started by a man named herbert armstrong, who had the same self-aggrandizing disease shared by russel-rutheford-knorr-franz..... the church began to reform after his death (which was not supposed to happen because he was "elijah" returned in the end times to "set things right" before christ's return) the video is the story of that reformation.. i am sure they still have some problems.
nope. NOt a wcg. I am genetically predisposed to despise authority of any kind. Plus I am an avid student of history, American in particular. The time I have spent studying and admiring the care the founders put in ensuring the blessings of liberty, and the constant fear of men seizing to much power probably inoculated me more then anything to the jw appeal.
When men ask for power, I always want to say no, and I become highly suspect.
The reason I know so much about wcg is because I have watched their dvd. I also have looked at rcg's website.
http://www.livinghopevideo.com/wcg.htm
i have this video and give it my wholehearted endorsement.
it is the story of the worldwide church of god which was started by a man named herbert armstrong, who had the same self-aggrandizing disease shared by russel-rutheford-knorr-franz..... the church began to reform after his death (which was not supposed to happen because he was "elijah" returned in the end times to "set things right" before christ's return) the video is the story of that reformation.. i am sure they still have some problems.
Yeah, I got a list of emails a while back to set up an email group.
A web site would be ideal. I am thinking of branching into web based programming and e-commerce. Maybe when I start doing that, I will set up a website for us. Invite only!
It has to be private though. I have so much I want to share with you all, but I just can't risk exposure right now. Some day I intend to show my wife just what the hell she put me through. Nah. That wouldn't be very Christian of me.
If you want to pm me your email address, I will try to put that list together soon. I am mostly talking with MJ, but we run out of ideas. He would probably like to get some new blood. If nothing else, I would have someone to prattle on to! He would probably like to pass me off on someone!
CYP
http://www.livinghopevideo.com/wcg.htm
i have this video and give it my wholehearted endorsement.
it is the story of the worldwide church of god which was started by a man named herbert armstrong, who had the same self-aggrandizing disease shared by russel-rutheford-knorr-franz..... the church began to reform after his death (which was not supposed to happen because he was "elijah" returned in the end times to "set things right" before christ's return) the video is the story of that reformation.. i am sure they still have some problems.
J,
did you check out my presentation advice I mentioned above. It is one of my "little tricks" that I came up with. Like you I don't mention my best stuff here anymore. I mostly just keep it to myself and MJ. Afraid of being made.
This dvd is absolutely made to order. You may have discussed things, but a dvd is such an efficient medium. There is no way you could have communicated with the power of this dvd.
CYP
i would be interested to know how charles t. russell actually died.
it's said he died on a train in 1916, but there are no specifics.. did he have a heart attack, cancer or something?
was there any report made by a chief medical examiner?
Merry,
I read through that whole stupid account to get to this gem:
We called in the Pullman conductor and also the porter and said, "We want you to see how a great man of God can die." The sight deeply impressed them, especially the porter.
I bet you a butt-load that they walked out and started laughing at those looney toon whack-jobs.
That account is too much. What a melodramatic, self-aggrandizing, control freak.
