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As long as their is new light, there is no false religion

by JH in

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friends

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if the jw's can receive new light, why can't the catholics or any other religion also receive new light, that would bring them a little bit closer to the truth.. so, if jw's can have new light, why do they call the other religions false?

aren't they also entitled to receive new light somewhere down the line and maybe become even closer to the truth than the jw's are.. as long as a religion can constantly recieve new light, so can others, which means there is no false religion, just religions changing slowly from one belief to another either very slowly, or a little faster..

Check_Your_Premises

Really every stupid argument they use to defend their faith can be used by someone at the door to defend orthodox Christianity if they wanted to be dishonest or annoying.

"But the churches use pagan symbols and have false teachings!!!"

"They are only imperfect men"

"Wait on Jehovah to clean his organization, we don't abandon it"

"Where else can we go?"

"It sounds like you just want to attack God's organization. I shouldn't listen to you or read your material. You sound like an apostate!"

"My beliefs are just what the Bible says, if you go against them you are going against the Bible"

and of course "The Bible says the light gets brighter for the righteous one"

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Need marital advice

by lost_light06 in

jw
friends

i need some serious advice.

i just found out my wife has been emailing some guy she met at her work.

she gave him her cell # and said she wanted to get together and connect.

Check_Your_Premises

Again Anewme... I think it depends on the situation. In your situation, I think it would have been completely appropriate.

I have gone the jealous/possessive route (with a girlfriend) and I came off as this controlling, psycho, smothering, jag-off (which I was).

Once I wised up and made it clear that I didn't give a damn what she did, that is when I got all sorts of attempts by her at reconciliation.

If he is a good husband, and she still needs to play these kind of games to feel desireable and wanted then she really isn't worth the effort.

Well LL you have heard from a couple of schools of thought. I would say both have there points and merits. You need to decide which best applies to your situation.

Regardless of what you choose, Anewme is right, that little jag-off needs to have his face kicked in.

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Need marital advice

by lost_light06 in

jw
friends

i need some serious advice.

i just found out my wife has been emailing some guy she met at her work.

she gave him her cell # and said she wanted to get together and connect.

Check_Your_Premises

Lets hear from some other ladies! Lets hear their take on this situation. I say sometimes a man needs to take drastic action to show his wife he loves her and does not want to lose her.

I guess it depends on the situation then Anewme. If his wife is suffering from neglect, and that is why she is looking elsewhere, then your approach is probably the correct one.

If his wife is certain of his undying love, then it is likely she is looking around because she doesn't respect him. Given that she is in her 20's and hasn't dated alot, she is probably naive enough to be impressed and turned on by some "bad-boy".

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Need marital advice

by lost_light06 in

jw
friends

i need some serious advice.

i just found out my wife has been emailing some guy she met at her work.

she gave him her cell # and said she wanted to get together and connect.

Check_Your_Premises

Another thought LL,

How sure are you that she hasn't already been with this guy? Where there is smoke there is fire my friend. I would invoke the cock-roach rule here. For every cockroack you see there are a thousand you don't. For every phone call and email there are a buttload of other things you don't know about.

How well can you account for her time?

Sorry, I just got you all paranoid probably. I just don't want you wasting alot of time with denial.

CYP

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Need marital advice

by lost_light06 in

jw
friends

i need some serious advice.

i just found out my wife has been emailing some guy she met at her work.

she gave him her cell # and said she wanted to get together and connect.

Check_Your_Premises

We are both young, mid 20's. She was really upset with me 8 mo's ago when i told her I didn't believe the "truth" anymore. We have 2 young kids together and I truly love her so, Yes, saving my marriage is very important to me. WC, while I appreciate your advice and would do it if I knew she was cheating the fact is I don't know whats going on. She only first emailed this guy 2 days ago but she has twice asked to connect with him and I think she has called him or text messaged him.

Lost Light... tough spot. Especially having children with her. I can personally attest that there is NOTHING good about growing up in a broken home.

You need to really be honest here, and understand that this is a situation largely outside of your control. You have to be ready to face some hard truths and all that they imply. I know you want to save your marriage. Does your wife? If she doesn't, all your wanting won't mean a thing.

Does it really matter if she were fully intending to head out the door to bang some guy, and you stopped her right before she left. Ok, besides the practical matters of possible disease and pregnancy (which most judges will put you on the hook for since you are married to her!!!), it still doesn't really matter does it?

She is either already gone or she is not. One thing my father the divorce attorney told me is most divorces are one person wanting to leave and the other person who doesn't. The person who doesn't gets majorly screwed because they are still holding out for some hope of reconciliation, while the other person has already left and only looking out shrewdly for their own best interests.

I know you are in ALOT of pain right now. You need to look past that and really focus on the best interest of you and your children. Apparantly your wife isn't!

So the question is, "has she left". I think you need to confront her with what you know. If she is ONLY mad at you for snooping, I would say that is a good "she has left" sign. Watch out for the "we're just friends" bit. Guys just aren't friends with women. If she is remorseful and sorry then perhaps she has not left. You will still have alot to work through, and you will still have to watch her like a hawk, but at least you will have a starting point.

If she has left you can either end the marriage or not. This is a very difficult decision since you have children. I am always of the opinion that barring an openly abusive environment, it is always better to have children raised in an intact home. Would you consider an open marriage? A marriage in name only? It really is up to you. You obviously would have to protect yourself from her getting knocked up or diseased.

Hope things go ok. WC has one thing dead on, do not be a pussy! Your instincts might be to grovel and beg in the hopes that she will appreciate your deep desire to keep your marriage intact. In my experience nothing would make her lose respect for you faster, and lead to an deeper desire to leave you. Your persona no matter how you feel inside is that you could really give a damn what she does. The only reason you are even bothering to mention it is because of the practical considerations. If you are ready to walk, no worries, that will ironically make you more desireable in her eyes.

And if things don't work out, just remember it will get easier every day. Tomorrow will be easier than today. Next week will be easier than this week. Next year? This woman will become "who?". So try to cheer yourself up with the the fact that you won't have to put up with any of her crap anymore. And think about all the women you have wanted to chase, and all the new opportunities. Forget about her.

And just help your kids to heal from it all as best you can!

CYP

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HOW MANY ARE LEAVING?

by zev in

jw
friends

i see lots of names here that i don't know, and with the wt on a campain to keep its followers from looking at "unaproved sites" .

i've got to wonder.....what are the stats?

how many are leaving ?

Check_Your_Premises

Yeah, the Spanish speaking communities are probably the easiest pickin's.

I don't know how many times my wife tells me about some new "interested one" who quickly becomes disinterested.... you know there is a google search in there somewhere.

Wish I would have thought to do a google!

CYP

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An interesting article quote from the guy who confessed to killing JonBonet

by Check_Your_Premises in

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friends

jonbenet's body was found in the basement of the ramsey home in boulder, colorado, early on the morning of december 26. karr told reporters in bangkok that he was with jonbenet in the basement when she died.

but lara karr's attorney, michael rains, said his client "sincerely believes there was no christmas ... anytime between 1989 and 2000 when they were married ... when her husband was not with her and her family at christmastime.

ok, speculation alert... you all know where i am going with this.

Check_Your_Premises

JonBenet's body was found in the basement of the Ramsey home in Boulder, Colorado, early on the morning of December 26. Karr told reporters in Bangkok that he was with JonBenet in the basement when she died.
But Lara Karr's attorney, Michael Rains, said his client "sincerely believes there was no Christmas ... anytime between 1989 and 2000 when they were married ... when her husband was not with her and her family at Christmastime

Ok, speculation alert... you all know where I am going with this. To the normal person this sentence means nothing, at most the vague, passing consideration that he and his wife were estranged.

To those familiar with the WT world those words stand out...

...and there seems to be some other JW-ish aspect of this story about a pedophile that I just cant seem to put my finger on?

C'mon people help me out here.... just drawing a blank here.

Edit: Ok I just re-read it and the part after the elipse makes it clear that there were Christmas', but they were always together... my bad...\ (hey it is Friday)

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girlfriend pregnate

by shaun t in

hi i have just split from my girlfriend who had been disfellowshipped when i meet her things were great.

she got pregnate and we were both thrilled.

now because of her blackmailling mother she has now left me and gone back to the religion.

Check_Your_Premises

"abrasive"

guilty as charged...

Tons of help here shaun. I hope you can look past the other stuff and find what you need.

CYP

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girlfriend pregnate

by shaun t in

hi i have just split from my girlfriend who had been disfellowshipped when i meet her things were great.

she got pregnate and we were both thrilled.

now because of her blackmailling mother she has now left me and gone back to the religion.

Check_Your_Premises

Jstalin,

No it is more than a mistake. There is a reason ancient cultures would kill people for doing such things. Our modern society has taken some of the edge off the consequences of this particular "mistake". Though the costs are more hidden now, we don't have "street urchins" anymore.

On the other hand the costs are still significant. There is a reason that the term "bastard" has such a negative connotation. It isn't just that a person is of questionable parentage. People raised outside of a viable family structure tend to revert to barbarism.... aka act like rotten bastards!!!

With that said, and it should be, we should avoid sounding judgemental. We all do awful things. Hate the sin not the sinner? We cant go back in time, so let's deal with what can help the situation. Making Shaun feel like an asshole probably won't make him very productive. I think that is all MJ is saying.

So Shaun, you did something really reckless and awful. Other people will probably pay the consequences of your actions long after you have passed. With that being said, there is an whole lot you can do to lessen the damage of your actions. You need to be apart of that child's life. You need to learn to masturbate (stop having children!!!) and start thinking about things like marketable skills (getting a decent job) and what kind of father you want to be... what kind of life you want for your child.

I hope you choose well.... so your kid doesn't rob me in 15 years or try to hand me cult literature.

CYP

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girlfriend pregnate

by shaun t in

hi i have just split from my girlfriend who had been disfellowshipped when i meet her things were great.

she got pregnate and we were both thrilled.

now because of her blackmailling mother she has now left me and gone back to the religion.

Check_Your_Premises

Actually I think with the dwindling numbers of new recruits, the increase in access to information, and the daily march of time making their 1914 apocolytpic predictions more laughable, the WT's only hope for avoiding an inbred genetic bottleneck is the influx of new worldy blood from the poor, pitiable, and horny df'ed dubs.

With that said... so sorry dude. You sound kinda young. Your kid is going to be brought up as a brainwashed dub. You have rights. YOu have options. You have hope. There are things you can do.

I would recommend following Drew's advice. I am truly sorry. I know your future and it isn't pleasant.

But you have a duty to that kid!!! You are it's only hope. Remember that.

CYP

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