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  A pretty good article on the Yahweh Bin Yahweh cult

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/classics/yahweh_cult/.

  they must be the truth, they use god's name!!!.

  just kidding.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/classics/yahweh_cult/

  They must be the truth, they use God's name!!!

  Just kidding.

  This is a good case study on cults. Obviously all cults are not created equal. I have had my eye on these guys for a while. They have a show on local access cable every Sunday morning. The hosts are beyond creepy in terms of their mechanical, robotic delivery.

  This shows that all cults are not created equal. The beliefs and practices of this group far exceeds the WT in terms of evil, controlling practices, and bizarre beliefs.

  (On the other hand I don't think anyone can match the WT for body count as a result of their blood doctrine)

  So even if you have been badly hurt by the WT, it could have been worse. You or your loved ones could have been in the Yahweh Bin Yahweh cult!
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  Service Year Comparison 2004/5 - 2005/6

  by TheListener in

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  i apologize but i posted this on another thread and then decided it really deserved its own thread.

  yes, i know that is only my opinion but what else have i to go on?.

  thanks to a pm someone sent me we can now compare 10 months of the current service year to last year's service report.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  has anyone done any comparisons of number publishers and number baptized side by side.

  I figure the number baptized would lag the number of publishers by a year or so.

  CYP
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  Service Year Comparison 2004/5 - 2005/6

  by TheListener in

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  i apologize but i posted this on another thread and then decided it really deserved its own thread.

  yes, i know that is only my opinion but what else have i to go on?.

  thanks to a pm someone sent me we can now compare 10 months of the current service year to last year's service report.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  by the same reckoning the number of pubs will increase by about 1%...
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  Service Year Comparison 2004/5 - 2005/6

  by TheListener in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i apologize but i posted this on another thread and then decided it really deserved its own thread.

  yes, i know that is only my opinion but what else have i to go on?.

  thanks to a pm someone sent me we can now compare 10 months of the current service year to last year's service report.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Listener,

  Sept 04 to June 05 shows 20,930 baptized.

  Sept 05 to June 06 shows 20,265 baptized.

  100% - (20265/20930)*100 = -3.18% growth in baptized

  (did I do that right?)

  CYP
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  Do we have the right to tell Iran that they can not have nuclear weapons?

  by free2beme in

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  i was looking at a list today, of countries that have nuclear weapons.

  i always think of the united states, russia, france and china.

  what shocked me, were pakistan, and india also have nuclear weapons.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Something else I have observed:

  If you look at the strategic considerations of nations with nukes, they are almost perfectly analogous to the considerations of individuals with guns.

  What I find interesting is that the folks that want to keep other countries from having nukes are usually the folks that want to make getting guns as easy as possible for individuals and vice versa.

  Curious.

  CYP
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  Do we have the right to tell Iran that they can not have nuclear weapons?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was looking at a list today, of countries that have nuclear weapons.

  i always think of the united states, russia, france and china.

  what shocked me, were pakistan, and india also have nuclear weapons.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Good question.

  Right implies some sort of permission given by some sort of guiding principle.

  I guess the claim would be that since we are a legitimately democratically elected government we have the right to tell a dictator since he is just one guy and doesn't (probably) represent the will of his people.

  Of course once someone has a nuke, you really can't tell them they can't have a nuke since they now have a deterrent whether you think you have the right or not to tell them.

  The problem with the whole "right" thing is figuring out whose guiding principle should be guiding it. Sure you might get some Yankee who says we have the right. But who the hell is going to agree with that who isn't a Yankee?

  Maybe a better way to think about it is Cost vs. Benefit coupled with what we Can and Can't do. In fact that is probably a good way to talk about ANYTHING a government does.

  So what are the costs of Iran getting a nuke? To us? To the world? What are the benefits?

  Once you get that, then ask yourself what can and can't we do about it?

  Looking at it from that standpoint, I think it becomes clear that we should pretty much do whatever we can to keep those nutbags from getting nukes. Muslim extremists are like JW's with guns.
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  Is there a quotes mirror site anywhere besides reexamine.org

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  they are under construction and i want to download the site for personal use.. cyp.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  That sounds about right if I remember....

  Yeah, could you send it to me?
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  Is there a quotes mirror site anywhere besides reexamine.org

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  they are under construction and i want to download the site for personal use.. cyp.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  I saw that one... in particular I was looking for the mirror sites that allow you to download the material.

  I haven't gone through that site, and I probably don't have time. I do know quotes pretty well and would really appreciate it if anyone had a copy of it or a link to where I could get it.

  CYP
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  Is there a quotes mirror site anywhere besides reexamine.org

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  they are under construction and i want to download the site for personal use.. cyp.

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  They are under construction and I want to download the site for personal use.

  CYP
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  How much influence did the internet have on you leaving the organization?

  by The wanderer in

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  untitled document <!-- .style1 {font-family: verdana} .style2 {font-family: verdana; font-style: italic; } --> discoveries about the organization on the internet admittedly, had it not been for the internet, and all of the dis-.

  coveries that were found on it; i would still be one of jehovah's .

  witnesses.

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  Check_Your_Premises

  Yep. When Gore was running for president. He made a statement that he invented the internet!

  I don't think he actually used the words "invented". I believe it was a statement made in context of some legislation that helped fund the connections between university and military computers. I think he said, "I helped create the internet".

  But it was a pretty funny statement, reminisent of "making outreageous claims like he invented the question mark". It caught on, and now is firmly entrenched in the American Lexicon. Right up there with "I voted for the war before I voted against it", "strategery", "don't misunderestimate me", and "It depends what the meaning of the word is, is".

  CYP