Posts by corproal

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Argument with fiancees family

by corproal in

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from: craig

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"From: Craig
Date: Apr 1, 2006 6:48 PM

I can't believe what a hypocrite you are.
Your sister doesn't know that I've left you a message but I feel I should let you know how I feel.
Here you are sitting in judgemnet of your sister because she doesn't conform to the faithful and supposedly doscreet slave ,yet I've read post after post of things that in my opinion make you a not so great witness.
I mean come on drunkeness having lust for wordly men.
Then to make matters worse you continue to speak to your brothers who have demonstrated time and time again that they really aren't part of the so-called truth.
Lets see lat time I checked the Borgs writings ,tattoes were a no-no yet your brothers seem to keep getting them.
Then there is the fact that you are sitting on what appears to be the floor of a bathroom drunk
I mean you say that you worship Jehovah ,prove it and stop beiong a hypocrite and tell those wordly appearing people to stop posting on your page or better yet delete the posts.
You're quick to judge your sister yet you won't even use your brain and question the governing body about such issues as them joining the U.N as an NGO in the 90's.
Yeah I know that they say that they joined only because they wanted a library card.
I guessed they missed the part about adhering to the U.N. Charter.
Yet if you wanted to go to a YMCA you could be difellowshipped.
can call me apostate or whatever catch-phrase you witnesses choose to label people with ,doesn't matter because I only answer to my lord and savior Jesus Christ and my Father who is in Heaven and not a bunch of old men sitting in Crooklyn(Brooklyn)
I am truly disappointed in you.
Your sister sits here and agonizes over you everyday the least you could do is have the guts to speak to her,but that's write nost witnesses when confronted with reality just like to run and cower like cowards.

Craig "

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Argument with fiancees family

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from: craig

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Got in an argument with fiances family

by corproal in

here is an example of how brainwashed witnesses are even if the facts are in front of their faces.. .

re: read this if you have the guts.. body:how dare you speak like that to my sister.

plus 99% of the things you read on the internet about the witnesses is false and i should know that because i am one.

corproal

The amazing thing about this letter is I emailed my future sister and law asking her why she's such a hypocrite and such.

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Got in an argument with fiances family

by corproal in

here is an example of how brainwashed witnesses are even if the facts are in front of their faces.. .

re: read this if you have the guts.. body:how dare you speak like that to my sister.

plus 99% of the things you read on the internet about the witnesses is false and i should know that because i am one.

corproal

here is an example of how brainwashed witnesses are even if the facts are in front of their faces.

Re: Read this if you have the guts.
Body:How dare you speak like that to my sister. Plus 99% of the things you read on the internet about the witnesses is false and I should know that because I am one. Even the encyclopedias have false info. Those claiming to be ex-jws also post lies, false info, and exaggerated stories and it would be very unwise to believe them. Why don't you research the bible itself to see the truth for yourself. In fact the witnesses are the only ones to use Jehovah's name and even other religions of the world are forced to admitt that is his name but their flawed thinking has caused them to abandon it. And there is countless other evidence that the witnesses have the truth, and it should be very clear to see. but that is beside the point. You are living in sin even from the "world's" standpoint, so why focus on the witnesses when you aren't even married?

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"Cornered" a street cornerer today

by Jez in

thought today that i would try to get some questions answered.

i wanted to see if he could answer my concerns and was looking forward to a nice discussion or some peace regarding some things that are driving me crazy.. so, i saw this older 'wise' looking gentleman on the street holding up some mags.

so, i approached him.

corproal

Good job JEZ!

Next time I see a Witless I'm going to try the same thing. Although, to tell you the truth I haven't seen a street Witness here in the US in over 10 years

The last time I saw witnesses in the neighborhood they only had a couple of people going door to door while the rest just stood around clocking that time.I was thinking that they could do that nonsense at home.

Criag

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"Cornered" a street cornerer today

by Jez in

thought today that i would try to get some questions answered.

i wanted to see if he could answer my concerns and was looking forward to a nice discussion or some peace regarding some things that are driving me crazy.. so, i saw this older 'wise' looking gentleman on the street holding up some mags.

so, i approached him.

corproal

CountryGuy,

Do you by any chance have any of those apostate tracts.I plan on having a study with some guy who was in front of the seven eleven.

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"Cornered" a street cornerer today

by Jez in

thought today that i would try to get some questions answered.

i wanted to see if he could answer my concerns and was looking forward to a nice discussion or some peace regarding some things that are driving me crazy.. so, i saw this older 'wise' looking gentleman on the street holding up some mags.

so, i approached him.

corproal

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"Cornered" a street cornerer today

by Jez in

thought today that i would try to get some questions answered.

i wanted to see if he could answer my concerns and was looking forward to a nice discussion or some peace regarding some things that are driving me crazy.. so, i saw this older 'wise' looking gentleman on the street holding up some mags.

so, i approached him.

corproal

Wow ,

That's amazing ,because I encountered the same type of react

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My story

by beachbugg in

it's really good to read stories of other people that have experienced some of the same things i have.

i haven't ever posted or even talked to another ex-jw except for my uncle who i have just recently started a relationship with.

the sad thing is that i am 30 years old and i am still struggling with the past....i'm soo sick of it.

corproal

Hey Beachbugg,

I am replying on my fiancees login and am also an ex JW, I would like to talk to u online, so I am sending my yahoo messenger id: myperogotive

or my email, which is [email protected]. Hope to hear from you soon, I feel we have a lot in common and it would he healing to talk...

[email protected]

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Jesus no longer really "a god"?

by M.J. in

i saw the latest wt magazine released this week.

i don't have it on me but on the cover it asks the question, "is there only one true god?".

skimming the story inside i noticed they quoted the verse in isaiah where it mentions there is only one god and there never was or will be a god alongside him.. "hmm," i wondered, "how will they reconcile this with john 1:1?".

corproal

I wonder why the JW's don't use examples such as this .

Here Jesus is declared the Firstborn of every creature. What does this phrase mean? Firstborn is translated from the Greek word prototokos, and it simply means: first-born --first begotten. We also see that prototokos is a conjunction of two root words. Protos and tikto (tikto is it’s alternate). Protos simply means: foremost (in time, place, order or importance):--before, beginning, first (of all), former.
The second article is tikto which means: to produce (from seed, as a mother, a plant, the earth, etc.), literally or figuratively:--bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail. Thus we see in these verses that Paul is telling us that Christ was ‘Begotten First or Born Before all creation’, because all of creation was created by God through Christ (Ephesians 3:9). This is also the explanation given to us concerning this verse in the Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon: “Christ is called, firstborn of all creation, who came into being through God prior to the entire universe of created things”. Wigram’s Greek Lexicon tells us the following: “Or it may be; born before all creation”. This truth is also testified to in Proverbs 8:24-25, “When there were no depths, I was brought forth (born); when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth (born)” . Jamieson, Faussett and Brown Bible Commentary has this to add: “first-born of every creature-- (Heb_1:6), "the first-begotten": "begotten of His Father before all worlds" [Nicene Creed]… Translate, "Begotten (literally, 'born') before every creature," as the context shows, which gives the reason why He is so designated. "For," &c. (Col_1:16-17) [TRENCH]. Matthew Henry’s Commentary states the following: “He was born or begotten before all the creation, before any creature was made;” This also destroys the Jehovah Witnesses’ doctrine that Christ was the first created angel; for we see that Christ was the active agent in the creation of all things, both in heaven and in earth, including angels. And what of the following verse? Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

The word ‘Beginning’ is from the Greek Arche. Arche is some times translated power and principality. And it is thus here, for it declares Christ to be the "agent" or "efficient cause" of Creation. This perfectly fits our understanding that Christ is the agent through whom God has created all things, but we are told that Christ was brought forth in a very different manner, for he is called the ONLY BEGOTTEN (MONOGENES) OF GOD, a phrase that would be utterly inappropriate to apply to any created being.

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