"What would your last words be?" Oh, sweet irony!
claytoncapeletti
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finally reading "Crisis of Conscience"
by glenwoodswoman ini never had the desire to read the book in all the years i have been "liberated".
joining this board got me curious about the book and i am finally reading it....and i am blown away by it!.
i left for reasons of my own- the society and i could not agree on who should run my life- them or me-i always felt that this life style works for some people, but not for me.. now that i am reading coc, i see the whole issue in a much bigger light!
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claytoncapeletti
I am 3/4 of the way through the book myself. I have found the book very insightful and shocking. It has given me a good look at the history of the BORG, very unlike the history that is taught in the kingdom halls. It blew me away to see how many people have died because of decisions the governing body made. So much politics and ego, and a huge lack of compassion and realization for how the average JW is affected by their rules and regulations. I also now feel more prepared to debate with any JW's that may cross my path.
Clayton
"Brothers dont shake hands, brothers got to hug"
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What are JW's going to do with their "outdated" Rev book and Dan proph book
by booker-t ini was just wondering what is going to happen when the leaders at wt headquaters see that the revelation grand climax book and the pay attention to daniel's prophecies book all prove false.
are they going to rewrite both books and call it "new light" and somehow say that they were wrong about the beast of revelation being the un and now the un will be considered holy?
are jw's going to have to praise the un as from jehovah and jesus?
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claytoncapeletti
This has become more and more obvious to me as I read through " Crisis of Consience" It's unreal to see the change in teachings over the years. When you compare the BORG's reasons for changing key dates and important issues through the years, there are all the same. Well, some brothers might have thought blah, blah, blah but thats not our fault because we said we were not sure. And yes we might have suggested that blah, blah, blah, might happen by blah, blah but a few brother read to much into it. Now we really have the true understand because we held the bible upside down and read while being under the influence of extra good dose of holy spirit. So now we can say with for sure that blah, blah, blah is going to happen by blah, blah. (see footnote) Footnote * Brothers and sister should not read to much into this, even though we are e ncouraging you do so and we are now postive blah, blah, blah is going to happen soon. We dont encourage the use of a certain date, even though we are all sure that blah, blah, blah is going to happen no later than blah, blah. We know this to be true, because we have deeply research the issuse and re-written our publications to match our new teachings, ummm we mean our understanding of this issue is now a new light.*
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Nambla article...
by stillconcerned ini used to have a copy of a nambla newsletter article titled.
"the church: the last, best place for access".
about 'how to' talk your way into a church kid's program in order to have 'relationship' with kids.. i moved offices and can't find it now.. .
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claytoncapeletti
Wow, I just went on the NAMBLA website. It is truly sad that an orgainaztion such as NAMBLA has members. Just browsing thier website made me sick, the most twisted part is their lame reasons on why it should be ok for a 13 year old boy to have sex with an older man. Tips on how not to get caught, traveling aboard for sex with boys, if there turns out to actually be a hell, I hope all associated with NAMBLA end up there!
Clayton
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Name One Wish You're Glad Went Unfulfilled
by Ingenuous ini'm glad god never granted my "wish" for a husband while i was still in the org.
i'd be hurtin' a lot more right now if i was married/involved.
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claytoncapeletti
During my first marriage I wished that we wouldnt end up divorced. I am very glad that wish wasnt granted to me. Now I am much happier and have truly found happiness.
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Is being a Witness really so bad? Is religion bad in general?
by jwfacts ini have no intention of ever being a witness again, but when i look at my family i wonder if they are better living in the ignorance they call spiritual paradise.
many people seem to have a need for religion.
is it better if they remain as they are?
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claytoncapeletti
I have had this discussion with my younger brother, who is attending meetings regularly but not baptized. He insists that he needs to have the BORG in his life or he would be able to be a good person. After my father died we both stopped attending meetings (he was 12, I was 20), he seriously rebelled and at 18 he was in jail for armed burglary. After spending a spending a year in jail, he came out and started attending meetings and re connected with several of his childhood JW friends. He has made a remarkable turnaround in his life, he stopped selling and using drugs and stopped breaking into houses. Despite all that I have shown him about the lies regarding the BORG (he believes me) he is certain that without going to meetings he would end up in jail. So, now I have taken up the stance that I will not discourage him from going to meetings and instead just try to encourage him that he has the possibility of being a "good" person with having to be in an organized religion. He in no way shuns me, even though he knows ALL of my dirt habits and knows that I am full of apostate information. Is he really a better person, just because of the JW lifestyle? I think he is and I am afraid of him being a full-time JW almost as much as I fear him not going back to his old life, which landed him in prison.
What's a brother to do?
Clayton
“Brothers don’t shake hands, brothers got to hug”
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Americans, would you buy a car this small to save on gas?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/a30439-2004dec27.html.
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claytoncapeletti
I would love a car that gets that good of gas mileage, but I'm 6'3 there is no way I could fit into that car. I barely can get comfortable in my corolla.
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claytoncapeletti
Netflix is great. My wife and I have it had we love it. The best thing about it is that I can go on and actually rent movies that I want to see! Before netflix it was a battle to rent a action movie or god forbid a sci-fi movie. Now my wife doesnt know that she has to sit and watch Lord of the Rings extended director's cut until it is already home.Clayton
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Reasons for having a "Worldly" boy/girlfriend while still in?
by damselfly inwhen i was a still a teenage jw ( sounds like a bad b movie drive in flick ) i had a "worldly" boyfriend.
i didn't want anything to do with the jw's but knew i wasn't strong enough to just walk away.
he became the focus of my family's hatred and the reason they believed i left (nothing could have been farther from the truth) this helped me to avoid explantions of why i didn't believe.
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claytoncapeletti
No such luck for me with dating worldly girls. I would never realize until it was much later whena girl was flirting with me. I even had this girl in 10th grade ask me out, but I told her no cause dating was only for people who were wanting to get married. I then processed to give her a "Questions young people ask book" instead of taking her to her house (her parents were out of town) like she wanted me to do. Needless to say, this didnt help my already week reputation.
Clayton
"Brothers dont shake hands, brothers got to hug"