Posts by claytoncapeletti

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The Great Crowd

by buffalosrfree in

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was talking with wife a day or so ago and she asked me a question on the w.t.

for sunday, it had to do with the annointed and malachi 3:17 being applicable in a modern day fulfillment and also for the great crowd, the question went something liek this "in principal, how is the great crowd part of the prophecy of malachi 3:17?

well when opportunity knocks you had better open the door, so i says well turn here to rev 7:14 she of course had to read it too, so i told her there is no great crowd, has the great tribulation happened?

claytoncapeletti

What makes the Christian Bible right and all other bibles wrong? Where is the proof that the Christian Bible is more inspired than the Koran, Kabbalah, The Book of Mormon, Bhagavad-Gita, or the Torah? Each set of people that follow these various Bibles, believe just as strongly that their book is the inspired bible. What makes them wrong and Christian’s right? In my opinion believing that the Christian Bible is the only inspired word of god is just as narrow minded as believing JW's are the only chosen people. Just because the bible says it's gods word doesn’t mean that it is the word of god. The Watchtower also says it is inspired by god, but that doesn’t mean that it is inspired by god.

Clayton

"Brothers don’t shake hands brothers got to hug"

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The Great Crowd

by buffalosrfree in

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friends

was talking with wife a day or so ago and she asked me a question on the w.t.

for sunday, it had to do with the annointed and malachi 3:17 being applicable in a modern day fulfillment and also for the great crowd, the question went something liek this "in principal, how is the great crowd part of the prophecy of malachi 3:17?

well when opportunity knocks you had better open the door, so i says well turn here to rev 7:14 she of course had to read it too, so i told her there is no great crowd, has the great tribulation happened?

claytoncapeletti

I don’t mean to be disrespectful to others beliefs but it drives me crazy when people take the bible so literally, especially books like Revelations that it filled with symbolism. The bible has been translated over and over again for hundreds of years. Most of us have heard of the story passing game. You line up 10 people and tell the first one a simple story. By the end of the line, the story is never the same and in many cases totally different. How can the bible be thought of any differently. If an almighty GOD wanted his story told, don’t you think he would do it clearly and in a manner that all could understand. Personally I find it impossible that the Bible that is read by Christians is anywhere near how it was originally written. With that in mind, how can any logical person base their faith and their lives on stories that are incorrect?

If there is no proof that the Bible is the inspired word of GOD, why do people so whole heartily accept the things written in it as fact? In my humble opinion the Bible is a nice book filled with stories about good and evil. There is no doubt that the bible does contain a lot accurate historical information but to accept the mythical parts as fact and the “Truth” show a lack of critical thinking skills.

Clayton

“Brothers don’t shake hands, brothers got to hug”

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If Armageddon comes and Jehovah kills you apostates

by Smiles in

what would your last words be?

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"What would your last words be?" Oh, sweet irony!

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BUSH visits new orleans at last

by tijkmo in

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finally reading "Crisis of Conscience"

by glenwoodswoman in

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i never had the desire to read the book in all the years i have been "liberated".

joining this board got me curious about the book and i am finally reading it....and i am blown away by it!.

i left for reasons of my own- the society and i could not agree on who should run my life- them or me-i always felt that this life style works for some people, but not for me.. now that i am reading coc, i see the whole issue in a much bigger light!

claytoncapeletti

I am 3/4 of the way through the book myself. I have found the book very insightful and shocking. It has given me a good look at the history of the BORG, very unlike the history that is taught in the kingdom halls. It blew me away to see how many people have died because of decisions the governing body made. So much politics and ego, and a huge lack of compassion and realization for how the average JW is affected by their rules and regulations. I also now feel more prepared to debate with any JW's that may cross my path.

Clayton

"Brothers dont shake hands, brothers got to hug"

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What are JW's going to do with their "outdated" Rev book and Dan proph book

by booker-t in

i was just wondering what is going to happen when the leaders at wt headquaters see that the revelation grand climax book and the pay attention to daniel's prophecies book all prove false.

are they going to rewrite both books and call it "new light" and somehow say that they were wrong about the beast of revelation being the un and now the un will be considered holy?

are jw's going to have to praise the un as from jehovah and jesus?

claytoncapeletti

This has become more and more obvious to me as I read through " Crisis of Consience" It's unreal to see the change in teachings over the years. When you compare the BORG's reasons for changing key dates and important issues through the years, there are all the same. Well, some brothers might have thought blah, blah, blah but thats not our fault because we said we were not sure. And yes we might have suggested that blah, blah, blah, might happen by blah, blah but a few brother read to much into it. Now we really have the true understand because we held the bible upside down and read while being under the influence of extra good dose of holy spirit. So now we can say with for sure that blah, blah, blah is going to happen by blah, blah. (see footnote) Footnote * Brothers and sister should not read to much into this, even though we are e ncouraging you do so and we are now postive blah, blah, blah is going to happen soon. We dont encourage the use of a certain date, even though we are all sure that blah, blah, blah is going to happen no later than blah, blah. We know this to be true, because we have deeply research the issuse and re-written our publications to match our new teachings, ummm we mean our understanding of this issue is now a new light.*

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Nambla article...

by stillconcerned in

i used to have a copy of a nambla newsletter article titled.

"the church: the last, best place for access".

about 'how to' talk your way into a church kid's program in order to have 'relationship' with kids.. i moved offices and can't find it now.. .

claytoncapeletti

Wow, I just went on the NAMBLA website. It is truly sad that an orgainaztion such as NAMBLA has members. Just browsing thier website made me sick, the most twisted part is their lame reasons on why it should be ok for a 13 year old boy to have sex with an older man. Tips on how not to get caught, traveling aboard for sex with boys, if there turns out to actually be a hell, I hope all associated with NAMBLA end up there!

Clayton

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Name One Wish You're Glad Went Unfulfilled

by Ingenuous in

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i'm glad god never granted my "wish" for a husband while i was still in the org.

i'd be hurtin' a lot more right now if i was married/involved.

claytoncapeletti

During my first marriage I wished that we wouldnt end up divorced. I am very glad that wish wasnt granted to me. Now I am much happier and have truly found happiness.

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Is being a Witness really so bad? Is religion bad in general?

by jwfacts in

i have no intention of ever being a witness again, but when i look at my family i wonder if they are better living in the ignorance they call spiritual paradise.

many people seem to have a need for religion.

is it better if they remain as they are?

claytoncapeletti

I have had this discussion with my younger brother, who is attending meetings regularly but not baptized. He insists that he needs to have the BORG in his life or he would be able to be a good person. After my father died we both stopped attending meetings (he was 12, I was 20), he seriously rebelled and at 18 he was in jail for armed burglary. After spending a spending a year in jail, he came out and started attending meetings and re connected with several of his childhood JW friends. He has made a remarkable turnaround in his life, he stopped selling and using drugs and stopped breaking into houses. Despite all that I have shown him about the lies regarding the BORG (he believes me) he is certain that without going to meetings he would end up in jail. So, now I have taken up the stance that I will not discourage him from going to meetings and instead just try to encourage him that he has the possibility of being a "good" person with having to be in an organized religion. He in no way shuns me, even though he knows ALL of my dirt habits and knows that I am full of apostate information. Is he really a better person, just because of the JW lifestyle? I think he is and I am afraid of him being a full-time JW almost as much as I fear him not going back to his old life, which landed him in prison.

What's a brother to do?

Clayton

“Brothers don’t shake hands, brothers got to hug”

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Americans, would you buy a car this small to save on gas?

by Elsewhere in

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/a30439-2004dec27.html.

claytoncapeletti

I would love a car that gets that good of gas mileage, but I'm 6'3 there is no way I could fit into that car. I barely can get comfortable in my corolla.