Posts by BugEye

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Are there any JWs in here?

by natred in

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friends

being bought up in this sick twisted orginization for many years i sypmathize for all of you who are brainwashed into believing it is the truth.its not!

its an organization full of scared helpless people,social outcasts,freaks,weirdos,power seeking old men,hypocrites and desperate charmless middle aged men attracted purely by the women.

i hear also a large number of peaodaphiles and now murderers?

BugEye

Natred:

Welcome aboard. Hope the spleen venting helps.

Unfortunatly, the reason many in the Borg cannot see the deception is that it
is an incredibly scary proposition that they are going to die after all when for
their entire conversion and life as a JW, the fear of death is effectively lifted
from their shoulders.

Even most animals fight death with all they have, and in the indoctrination
program of the Borg, they are slowly convinced that they need never die at all
barring accidents and sickness.

This is different than most other religions which teach that you must die to
get any reward and it is this difference that makes it incomprehensible to most
JW's that death is real.

Camay:

I feel for you in your attempt, but as an ex drone, I suggest that the cross idea
is rather mute and not likely to reap any rewards. Although they seem to make
a big deal out of the cross stake matter, it would not actually help even if he
were convinced you were right. First of all, anything in the NWT about the cross
will be relatively easy to explain away. And second if Christ did die on a cross, he
will simply suggest to you that Christendom should not worship that which took
away the life of Jesus. Thereby convincing himself that he is still in the "truth"

Dave

25

Ten Good Reasons to Attend the Sydney BBQ

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

reason # 10: you might meet the three toms !.

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details of time and place, etc from [email protected]

BugEye

Sorry peeps

I would love to come, but unfortunately we cant make the trip at
the moment.

Dave

25

Ten Good Reasons to Attend the Sydney BBQ

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

reason # 10: you might meet the three toms !.

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details of time and place, etc from [email protected]

BugEye

#1 no song and prayer to commence proceedings (brain shutdown time)

dave

25

Ten Good Reasons to Attend the Sydney BBQ

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

reason # 10: you might meet the three toms !.

====================================================.

details of time and place, etc from [email protected]

BugEye

#2 Stress and dogmatism free time for the brain

25

Ten Good Reasons to Attend the Sydney BBQ

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

reason # 10: you might meet the three toms !.

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details of time and place, etc from [email protected]

BugEye

#3 'cause I can count time on all you apostates

Dave

17

What makes us religious?

by bigboi in

jw
friends

has anyone out there ever pondered that question?

i remember when i was a little boy i always seemed to feel so close to god.

my family was not and still isn't very religious, so why did i turn out to be that way at such a young age?

BugEye

1933, a linguist named A. Korzybski made a very useful statement, he wrote:

... a map is not the territory it represents, but if correct, it has a similar structure to the territory, which accounts for its usefulness ...

He was referring to the map that we hold in our "mind" that describes
the "territory" out there in the real world.

Like a goldfish in a bowl who can never know what it is like outside
the water, we can never know the "truth" of what the world really is
like. In our eyes, if we did not have a mind / brain that interprets
for us, we would constantly see a world with gaping holes in it
corresponding to our blind spots. Our mind / brain seamlessly
integrates the images with our "map".

One statement that is made that is that people believe what they want
to believe, but this is simply not true. No matter how much you want
to believe that you can fly, you wont. The evidence is simply too
overpowering unless your mental powers are medically deficient.

Belief systems are complex and difficult to understand, and it appears
that since we can never make any observations external to our own
frame of reference we will never be fully able to understand our own
minds completely.

It does appear that when the evidence is overwhelming, incorrect
beliefs are easily and quickly shattered unless mentall illness is
involved. Examples are gravity, need for food, touch sensation etc.
What this also implies then is that there is still insufficient
evidence to "blow away" peoples "spiritual" ideas. Athiests and
Agnostics hold on dearly to their idea of a materialist universe every
bit as strongly as the devout born again. However at this stage of
human history, there is still insufficient evidence to sway the
general population one way or another.

Many People end up with a conglomeration of beliefs that can slowly
evolve over a lifetime but remain essentially the same. Others have
a mid life crisis and make more radical changes to their perceptions
of realities.

Just a few thoughts

Dave

7

which rules if dropped would affect the Jw most?

by nojw86 in

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friends

the dropping of five weekly meetings to just one.

no longer turning in field service slips.

being able to smoke again if you did.

BugEye

nojw86

I still dont celebrate birthdays with my two children, because of several reasons
none of which are religiously based. I show love to them by hugs and presents
when I feel emotionally driven to. They know they are loved and I for one as a
borg drone never missed birthday parties. I left the world at 8 and came back to
the world at 39, and I can honestly say that I am glad I never got into the
birthday scene.
I wont impose my reasons here, because it is off topic, but I think the Changes
would fall into 3 categories.

The most positive change from a niceness point of view would be the
Disfellowshipping rule.

From a healthier mental outlook point of view, then the 5 meetings down to one
closely followed by removing fs reporting (along with approved quantity of service.

The single biggest physical impact would be allowing external literature and
media to be veiwed without guilt by the members. This one would be the biggest,
simply because it would cause members to leave in their droves.

Dave

23

What is the role of the Annointed NOT on the GB?

by LDH in

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friends

does anyone have an answer to this question?

other than 'partaking', what exactly is it that 8,000 old boogers do the rest of the year?.

doesn't anyone else find it odd that out of these 8,000+ old boogers, only like 9 of them are on the gb?

BugEye

During my years as a drone, I knew about 4 or 5 "annointed" ranging in ages from 30
to about 65. Of these, only 2 had any bearing on congregation matters. One was
and Elders wife who was a royal self rightous $#@(*^ and she did a significant amount
of behind the scenes congregation manipulating. Another one was an elder himself. But
as to "annointed" it was only ever regarded as a personal thing and nothing to do
with any of the running of the borg.

Another was a nice man who owned his own business and was very kind but his wife
had emotional distubances and their daughter was sick and retarded. Not even the elders
viewed him as anything at all and his fs was usually on the low side.

The other that I recall was a young married women with 2 daughters. The children were
always well behaved and her mate was an unbeliever. She speculated a fair bit and I
always enjoyed conversations with her as her discussions were always humble and
enlightened "for a drone". But again because she had a "bad" mate and was a young
woman in her 30's, she was always regarded rather lowly by others in the cong.

All in all, only one of the ones I knew was not nice and the rest were nice. 1 or 2 were
a cut above the rest but other than the nasty woman, none had any impact, different
from other drones, on others either in their congregation or elsewhere.

As they always said, their reward was in heaven and not on earth and that was the
ONLY difference between them and the GC.

Dave

139

Just a few more

by BugEye in

joey's teacher sent a note home to his mother saying, "joey seems to be a very bright boy, but spends too much of his time thinking about sex and girls.".

the mother wrote back the next day, "if you find a solution, please advise.

i have the same problem with his father.

BugEye

How to impress a woman:

Compliment her,
cuddle her,
kiss her,
caress her,
love her,
stroke her,
tease her,
comfort her,
protect her,
hug her,
hold her,
spend money on her,
wine and dine her,
buy things for her,
listen to her,
care for her,
stand by her,
support her,
buy flowers for her,
go to the ends of the earth for her...

How to impress a man:

Show up naked.
Bring beer.

139

Just a few more

by BugEye in

joey's teacher sent a note home to his mother saying, "joey seems to be a very bright boy, but spends too much of his time thinking about sex and girls.".

the mother wrote back the next day, "if you find a solution, please advise.

i have the same problem with his father.

BugEye

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