I like this old saying - "God wants spiritual fruits, NOT religious nuts" (!)
bennyk
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A study of Galatians
by Billygoat inseveral months ago, i asked a friend of mine from church to become my "accountability partner.
" basically, someone that meets with me once a week and we share what is going on in our lives.
the point is to share joys, unburden griefs, pray together, pray for each other, be brutally honest with each other, study the bible together, etc.
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In My Opinion...
by OldSoul inin my opinion (for the sake of sixofnine and his propensity toward apoplexy):.
it seems to me that while there are many issues that we could address regarding the watchtower bible and tract society/governing body/congregation of jehovah's witnesses, there is one that stands out as uniquely given to ease of communication.
i would like to take this opportunity to state which issue and why, then invite open commentary.. the issue of the watchtower bible and tract society attaching itself to the un/dpi.. while i readily agree that this is minor in importance compared to matters like child molestation and failed prophecy, i see this as the easiest to bring up, the easiest to substantiate, and the easiest to demonstrate long-term gross error in.
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bennyk
Yes. Remember: the new, improved Organization book explains that one may be declared disassociated for joining a secular group with goals inconsistent with those of the Messianic Kingdom. I'm waiting for one of the "Friends" to inform us (tearfully) that at the Service Meeting it was announced that "The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" (!)
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A study of Galatians
by Billygoat inseveral months ago, i asked a friend of mine from church to become my "accountability partner.
" basically, someone that meets with me once a week and we share what is going on in our lives.
the point is to share joys, unburden griefs, pray together, pray for each other, be brutally honest with each other, study the bible together, etc.
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bennyk
JW's do not come to their beliefs from a study of the BIBLE, but rather from the indoctrination force-fed to them via the "Christian publications" considered during "Christian meetings".
For fun, give some thought to Galatians 4:26,27. If you feel you can't tell who is who, look at the WT 95 01.August, p11, paragraph 8, which clearly (and correctly, I hasten to add) identify the "barren/desolate woman" and "her who has the husband". There appears to be a mathematical problem when comparing the scripture with the WTS' two-hope, two-class Christian system, in which only 144 000 could POSSIBLY have a heavenly hope. (Also look at Eph. 4:4).
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Watchtower study - so long and so boring
by Donkey Lipz ini remember going to sunday meetings...the public talks went by fast (sometimes).
but the watchtower study to me was so boring and not interesting at all.
it felt longer than the public talk.
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bennyk
Sphere said: "the extra effort to add a new thought that was not clearly printed in the paragraph doesn't go over too big".
Lads, isn't that the truth! I once had a Brother tell me he feared mine was the only Bible with James 1:27 or 1 Tim 5:8 in it. Not infrequently these scriptures were featured in answers prefaced with: "Although it is not cited in the paragraph...". Eventually, my unwelcome comments ceased (along with any other comments, as well).
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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bennyk
Yes, Blondie. The video equates Moses and the Org, while Korah & Co. are said to represent any and all who might question the "spirit-appointed elders" (designated reps for the WTS), or (gasp!) the WTS ITSELF (OMG!!!!).
It apparently occurs to no one in the KHs that the Greater Moses is our Lord Christ Jesus (most emphatically NOT the WTS) and Korah & Co. represent the WTS, which is doing everything it can to usurp Jesus' God-given position.
Guess I'll be one of those Israelites who flee from Korah, lest I be "swept away in all their sin". (Numbers 16:23-35).
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The book that changed my view on JW
by homme perdu init wasnt coc.
it was reasoning with the scriptures.
does anyone else have the same experiance?
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bennyk
When I was studying the WT with my (much) younger siblings, I felt the need to help them get the Bible's viewpoint on the subjects discussed in the study articles; accordingly, we actually looked up and read the cited scriptures. After a few weeks (months?) of this, it became increasingly clear that the WT had a marked inability to read things in context -- indeed, many of the cited scriptures had little or nothing to contribute to the discussion at all! I was forced to reassess my beliefs as I continued to look to the scriptures. What was discovered was not a very pretty picture: much WTS doctrine/dogma has no foundation in scripture whatsoever. The book that convinced me that the WTS was most emphatically NOT the one true religion was the BIBLE.
I will say other books were helpful, also. Anybody here read Russell's "Divine Plan of the Ages"? (...and compared it to current "new light"?) How about Rutherford's "Harp of God"? The WTS is its own worst enemy. (Prov. 10:19)
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-3-05 WT Study (complete)
by blondie inwhom do you see at this place of worship?
christian identity or their identity as jehovah?s witnesses?.
faith and confidence in?his organization?in jehovah and his promises which can only be explained by the wts.
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bennyk
Thank you very much for that most informative post. It would seem that after one has failed to attend a single KH meeting for six months, the mags are no longer forthcoming. We miss the (unintended) entertainment factor forever found in the "spiritual banquet" provided by the "sole channel". Thanks for sharing!
I don't think "asking honest questions with the right motive" (para. 10) will get any traction, though. More likely greased skids leading to DF/DA-Land. (Honest STATEMENTS with or without motive are really beyond the Pale... It's best for me to avoid the pleasure of their company; I have terminal foot-in-mouth disease.)
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Comments on Jason BeDuhn's view of NWT and question?
by researcher inany opinion on the philip's transalation??
i believe there was an article recently, in the dec 1, 2004 wt, about a jason beduhn who commented on the nwt in a very positive light.
anyone know what the other translations he examined??
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bennyk
KJV, Amplified Bible, Living Bible, New American Bible, New Revised Standard Version, New American Standard Version, New International Version, Today's English Version, NWT. In the Appendix, he has a consideration of the divine Name in the NWT NT. (He explains why it is improper: it is simply 237 interpolations...)
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The New World Translation and Honesty
by Little Bo Peep inafter having researched my beliefs of 45+ years, finding so much was really different than what the bible context really taught, i decided to "read" the bible for for the first time to see what it really was saying, taking off the "blinders" of the wt.
i began reading the greek scriptures first.
i used the new world translation, knowing if we were to ever reach our grown children, i would need to use that translation to prove anything.
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bennyk
For fun, check out Hebr. 11:13 in the KIT and compare it to the NWT rendering in the margin. (On the earth / in the land)
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Which Translation of the Bible would you say is most accurate?
by researcher inwhich translation of the bible would you say is most accurate and was not influenced by any 'religious group' in the translation?
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bennyk
The Elberfelder-Bibel; the original from the nineteenth century, not the revision thereof.