bennyk
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the latest change in the "generation" doctrine
by No Apologies inok i have not been keeping up-to-date on recent "new light" as some of you.
apparently the new definition of "this generation" that came out in the the 90s, 1995-1997?
has been replaced?.
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Police Get The Wrong House In Galveston, Assault 12-Year old girl
by Elsewhere inhttp://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2008/12/galveston_false_arrest.php.
police get the wrong house in galveston, allegedly assault 12-year-old girlwed dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:01 pmit was a little before 8 at night when the breaker went out at emily milburn's home in galveston.
she was busy preparing her children for school the next day, so she asked her 12-year-old daughter, dymond, to pop outside and turn the switch back on.. .
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bennyk
Disclaimer: Of course, I am not privy to all the details (real or imagined) of this story.
From what I read, what concerns me less is the fact that the police (apparently) made a foolish mistake; what concerns me more is that they (apparently) conspired to file false police reports to conceal a felon(-y/-ies) -- the one(s) they committed.
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Doctrinal ramifications of large increase in 2008 memorial partakers?
by yadda yadda 2 inthe nearly 10% increase in partakers at the memorial in the 2008 annual service report is a huge increase.
there were increases in the previous years too.. this massive increase is no doubt attributeable to the 'new light' this year that the calling of the 'heavenly class' was not closed in 1935, as previously taught.
the new understanding this year is that the calling of the 'anointed' class is 'evidently' still open.
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bennyk
yadda yadda writes:
Raymond Franz pointed out very well that there is practically no difference in how the 144k and great crowd are presented and described in Revelation, however, this does not necessarily mean the GC are a heavenly class..
The naos itself is specifically stated to be in Heaven in Rev. 11:19; 14:17; and 15:5.
The "Great Crowd" is in the naos (en to nao) according to Rev. 7:15.
Ergo, the "Great Crowd" serves in Heaven.
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2008 Annual Report on web
by Dogpatch insomeone just sent me a link to the 2008 annual report.. haven't read it yet.
randy .
http://www.4shared.com/file/75568905/6c852737/2008_annual_report.html.
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bennyk
So let me see if I understand this correctly.
The average number of publishers increased 2.1%.
The number of acknowledged partakers increased 9.677% [!]
"The little one himself will become a thousand, and the small one a mighty nation. I myself, Jehovah, shall speed it up in its own time."
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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE WT STUDY Nov, 24-20, 2008
by Mary ini told blondie i'd do the comments this week to help give her a bit of a break.
this week's study is all about resisting the spirit of the world.
this is nothing new really-----they've been preaching this for decades, but it still unbelievable how hypocritical they can be......... the study article is in black, my comments are in blue and unless otherwise noted, all scriptures are from the nwt.. .
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bennyk
Mary comments:
And notice how they tie in "apostate speech" and put it on the same playing field as "spiritism", "drunkenness" and "adultery"? And as "proof", they off the two Ol’ Faithfuls: Hymenaeus and Philetus who had "....deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred...".
More "proof positive" that the WatchTower Society can't see beyond the end of their nose.
W 01. April 1986 QfR:
Do we have Scriptural precedent for taking such a strict position? Indeed we do! Paul wrote about some in his day: "Their word will spread like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of that number. These very men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred; and they are subverting the faith of some." (2 Timothy 2:17, 18; see also Matthew 18:6.) There is nothing to indicate that these men did not believe in God, in the Bible, in Jesus’ sacrifice. Yet, on this one basic point, what they were teaching as to the time of the resurrection, Paul rightly branded them as apostates, with whom faithful Christians would not fellowship.
This is most fascinating. When the F&DS was supposedly appointed in 1919, the Watch Tower Society was still teaching that the Resurrection had begun in 1878 -- a teaching not altered until 1927 -- and which teaching the WTS then rejected as false in favour of the "new light" teaching that the resurrection had begun in 1918. (Currently, the 1918 date is viewed only as "an interesting possibility" [W 01. Jan. 2007, p.28])
According to its own published standard, the Watch Tower Society in 1919 would be 'rightly branded apostate, with whom faithful Christians would not fellowship'...
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They "Keep Following the Lamb" - February Study Article (Praise for the GB)
by Ultimate Reality inthe article is not yet in print, however on jw.org you will find the audio recording for the february 15, 2009 study edition.. this article sums up some of the talks given over the past year or so.
it makes clear that we should trust the faithful and discreet slave because jehovah and jesus trust the "slave".
the slave has been faithfully providing spiritual food for 130 years.
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bennyk
As individual Christians, how do we view the timely spiritual food that the faithful slave dispenses by means of bible-based publications and through Christian gatherings?
I view it as so much rubbish. What the deuce is "timely" about the pabulum they spew? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/118225/1.ashx
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The Prisoner
by mrsjones5 inamc is doing a remake of "the prisoner" one of my absolute favs.
are there any prisoner fans out there?
when i first started watching it (on pbs) my dad thought i was being my usual weird self, but i didn't care - i loved it and still do.
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bennyk
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own. Be seeing you.
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Kingdom Hall Weddings - November Kingdom Ministry
by BluesBrother inif this has already been posted up - then i missed it.. this question box left me .
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bennyk
What concerns me most regarding this article is the fallout that will occur where some have decided (or will decide) that they really didn't want the hassle of the Kingdom Hall wedding. The "Rumour-mill" will quickly conclude that they were forbidden (or realized they would be forbidden) to use the Hall because of "conduct unbecoming a Christian"...
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Deceptive or just wrong?
by johnnyc ini have been virtually non-stop studying everything i can get my hands on with regards the wtbts, and "apostate" literature and information.
in all honesty, 80% at least is non-sense and over critical.
however, i do find about 20% (if i have to create a percentage reference) is appropriate in its line of reasoning and questioning.
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bennyk
johnnyc writes:
there are many examples by which imperfection of God's channel still required obedience thereof - it does not let us off the hook for going our own way...
Fine and dandy, old bean. But the Society is in no way, shape, or form "God's channel"...
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Deceptive or just wrong?
by johnnyc ini have been virtually non-stop studying everything i can get my hands on with regards the wtbts, and "apostate" literature and information.
in all honesty, 80% at least is non-sense and over critical.
however, i do find about 20% (if i have to create a percentage reference) is appropriate in its line of reasoning and questioning.
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bennyk
The Society does claim to be a prophet. Publications of the Watch Tower Society establish the view that they claim to speak for God. Rutherford stated:
“These are the anointed class on earth, and these are they who are watchmen and who joyfully do the will of the Lord on earth. Since he commands what shall be done on earth we should have no difficulty in finding that he is directing his work. The Watch Tower is the medium of communication with the various ones who are watchmen and who love the Lord. The Lord has long used it for that purpose. During the year just past THE WATCH TOWER, we believe, has set forth some meat in due season sent from the Lord. (WT 01. Dec. 1925, p.355)
“Without a doubt the Lord uses his angels to cause the truth to be published in The Watchtower, and the faithful followers of Christ Jesus who hear and give heed to the message of truth from the Lord and render obedience thereto are thus a spectacle or theater to others, both men and angels...” (WT 01. Feb. 1935, p.41)
“In 1927 God began to reveal to his people the meaning of the dream had by Nebuchadnezzar. Thereafter, in August 1930, by and through the columns of The Watchtower God caused to be published the proper understanding of the dream of Nebuchadnezzar. As stepping stones gradually leading up to the understanding of the great image was the publication of the articles in The Watchtower, to wit, “The Winepress,” September 1, 1926 ; “The Stone in Zion,” October 15, 1926. No man can properly interpret prophecy, and the Lord sends his angels to transmit correct information to his people, and when these truths come to his people and the facts fit the prophecy, then they should take it as from the Lord and receive it with rejoicing.” (WT 15. Feb. 1935, p.52) .
(The Society’s new understanding of Nebuchadnezzar‘s dream, although declared to be “proper”, “correct”, and “from the Lord”, has since been abandoned as false.) Thus the Lord gets the blame for Rutherford’s erroneous teachings and false prophecies.
Rutherford even went so far as to equate his false prophecy regarding 1925 with the Gospel:
“Therefore it seems that now is the time for the church to proclaim far and wide in Christendom this good news. Hence it is the purpose of the Society to ask every public speaker, all the Pilgrim brethren, all the elders of classes, all who can give a public discourse in every part of Christendom, to prepare a discourse upon the subject: “The World Has Ended~Millions Now Living Will Never Die,” and to herald this message as a witness to Christendom; and it would seem if the church fails to do this, the very stones will cry out.” (WT 01. July 1920, p.200)
“Surely the words of the Master are now in course of fulfillment: "This gospel ["The World Has Ended: Millions Now Living Will Never Die"] shall be preached in all the world for a witness, and then shall the end come". The Master’s inspiring words thrill the heart of the Christian and spur him on with greater zeal to give the witness now. We urge the dear brethren everywhere, everyone who is qualified, according to the Lord’s arrangement, for speaking to the public, to use for all public addresses the subject: "Millions Now Living Will Never Die". It is the message that we want to get to the people. It is the message of the hour. It is the message that must go to all Christendom as a witness before the final end of the present order.” (WT 15. Oct. 1920, p.310 bracketed material in original)
(Recycled old post)