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  The generation changed is explained in the June 15'th WT!

  by life is to short in

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  it is here in writing the new generation change.

  on page 5 of the of the wt while talking about the annual meeting report.. "john barr gave the third and final talk.".

  "john barr made clear that the gathering wound not continue indefinitely.

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  " This latest nulite allows JW's to think that all the old-light was leading to this. Belief in the 1914 generation never passing away was the anchor of modern JW's. Here's what might go through a JW's mind:
  
  "Why would God mislead us? Well, nulite says that was sort of, but not quite what the Governing Body should have discerned. Perhaps God didn't mislead us, but the 1914 generation would not pass away in some other way. The 1995 teaching was leading them toward letting go of the idea that it was a single lifetime. The 2008 change to "anointed" was finally getting on track and with 2010's clarification, we see there is really a need for urgency."

  All the more reason to point out that the Watch Tower Society taught officially back as far as 1927 that the "generation" was more than a single lifetime, viz. the Anointed ("new creation") (Watch Tower, 15. Feb. 1927), and that they changed said supposed correct teaching to a falsehood they taught as God's truth for forty-six years.

  W 15. July 1949, p. 215 par. 19
  The generation of Jesus’ earthly days did not
  thus see him arriving in Kingdom power. But that
  generation was a prophetic illustration. It has its
  modern counterpart in our generation from A.D. 1914
  forward. This generation is the one that sees the Son
  of man coming with the clouds of heaven as foretold
  by Daniel, because in 1914, the year marking the end
  of the Gentile times, Jehovah God gave the Kingdom
  to him whose right it is.

  Of course, Witnesses in general are entirely unaware of that 1927 Watch Tower...
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  The generation changed is explained in the June 15'th WT!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it is here in writing the new generation change.

  on page 5 of the of the wt while talking about the annual meeting report.. "john barr gave the third and final talk.".

  "john barr made clear that the gathering wound not continue indefinitely.

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  bennyk

  "...the younger anointed contemporaries of those older anointed ones who discerned the sign when it became evident beginning in 1914 will not die off before the great tribulation starts!"

  Among other things...

  The problem here is that the "sign" (for the sake of argument we'll assume one exists...) evidently did not become "evident beginning in 1914".

  There simply are no "younger anointed contemporaries of those older anointed ones who discerned the sign when it became evident beginning in 1914." The "spirit-directed Organisation" did not discern it "beginning in 1914" -- rather, the Watch Tower Society continued to use all the means at its disposal to preach its admittedly false message that the "Time of the End" had begun in 1799. (The doctrine that the "Time of the End" had begun in 1914 was first taught in 1929.)
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  The generation changed is explained in the June 15'th WT!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it is here in writing the new generation change.

  on page 5 of the of the wt while talking about the annual meeting report.. "john barr gave the third and final talk.".

  "john barr made clear that the gathering wound not continue indefinitely.

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  bennyk

  Oh, dear. Evidently the Watch Tower Society's new understanding contradicts a previous teaching.

  "When Jesus used 'generation' for the last time, he was on the Mount of Olives with four apostles. (Mark 13:3) Those men, who were not yet anointed with spirit nor part of a Christian congregation, certainly did not constitute either a 'generation' or a race of people." (Watchtower 01. Nov. 1995, pp. 30, 31)

  "What did Jesus mean by 'generation,' both in his day and in ours? Many scriptures confirm that Jesus did not use 'generation' with regard to some small or distinct group, meaning only the Jewish leaders or only his loyal disciples." (Watchtower 01. June 1997, p.28)

  Evidently, the Watch Tower Society is full of manure...
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  How do you FOR SURE jw's Do not have the truth?

  by whatistruth in

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  i personally believe they do not, but what solid evidence can you provide me so i can try to convince others?.

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  Old, but still good: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/118225/1/Continually-pounding-the-Deliverance-at-Hand-drum
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  Witnesses in my neighborhood yesterday

  by TanCatLuvr in

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  hubby told me that a mob of dubs got out of a mini van across from our house while i was at work yesterday (why do they always come when i am not home?).

  an older brother and his son saw him in garage and came up to talk.

  hubby being the polite guy he is, just listened.. hubby told him about my background and why i left.

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  Time magazine had rather a different take on the "Raymond Franz incident":

  http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922767-1,00.html
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  2010 - Year of the Governing Body?

  by lepermessiah in

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  let me explain by what i am getting at without sounding like captain obvious!

  i am actually excited about this since i think this could help assist a ton of people out of this organization!!.

  i believe that the governing body is stepping up efforts to emphasize their unconditional rulership - every wt study article seems to make reference to their authority.

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  good4nothingB, the GB votes had to be unanimous until the early 1970's, when the process was altered to a 2/3 vote...
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  Holy spirit reveals stuff through GB--July 15, 2010 WT

  by sd-7 in

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  july 15, 2010 wt page 22, 23:.

  would all anointed christians shine?.

  in a sense, yes, for all christians would participate.

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  "The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6)"

  Hmmm. The scripture refers to the Apostles, yet the WTS states unequivocally that the Apostles have no successors: “ Apostolic Succession --Definition: The doctrine that the 12 apostles have successors to whom authority has been passed by divine appointment.... Not a Bible teaching.” ( Reasoning p.37 [ Italics in original])
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  2010 DC" Remain in Gods Love"...Most Unloving Yet??

  by JWFreak in

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  the talk outlines for the summers conventions are only being printed over the next 2 weeks or so.. the finished outlines were ready in the middle of december 2009, however sources that i trust tell me that at least 5 of the talks were returned for last minute rewriting which is highly unusual.

  this has held up the printing until now, a delay of over a month.

  this is a fact!!.

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  I would love to hear them 'lose it' in writing these talks and really get nuts.

  Haven't they already done that?

  I think they're destroying the facade with their own hands...
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  "Letting Spiritual Light Shine Online" - Watcthower.org gets 70,000 hits a day!

  by slimboyfat in

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  i am reading the new 2010 yearbook at the moment.

  on page 13 it says www.watchtower.org gets 70,000 hits a day, and that 24 million people visited the web site last year, a 33% increase since 2007. .

  simon, how does that compare with this site?

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  Because they are used to getting away with lying, and it has served them so well in the past.

  I wonder how many hits are from "apostates" seeking hypocrisy and falsehoods, which can be used against the Society.
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  My JW Friend's Justification for the WT Being God's Chosen Organisation

  by maputo95 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  below is my jw friend's "proof" that the wt is god's only organisation and mouthpiece on earth.

  he has yet to reinforce his strange story by biblical text or the church fathers or any historical evidence.. please, suggest how i may respond to his assertion.

  i believe that this is the fundamental doctrine of the 'borg' and the one on which wt credibility rests.. thank you.. .

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  (Reworked old post [23. Oct. 2006]:)

  W 01. April 1986 QfR:

  Do we have Scriptural precedent for taking such a strict position? Indeed we do! Paul wrote about some in his day: "Their word will spread like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of that number. These very men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred; and they are subverting the faith of some." (2 Timothy 2:17, 18; see also Matthew 18:6.) There is nothing to indicate that these men did not believe in God, in the Bible, in Jesus’ sacrifice. Yet, on this one basic point, what they were teaching as to the time of the resurrection, Paul rightly branded them as apostates, with whom faithful Christians would not fellowship.

  This is most fascinating. When the F&DS was supposedly appointed in 1919, the Watch Tower Society was still teaching that the Resurrection had begun in 1878, a teaching the WTS now admits was false. According to the Watch Tower Society, the Lord thus appointed over all his belongings an organisation that (by its own published standard) would be 'rightly branded apostate, with whom faithful Christians would not fellowship'!!!