Posts by bennyk

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1975 and the burning question/s??

by UnshackleTheChains in

ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.

the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.

'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.

bennyk

The Society encouraged its affiliates to ignore that scripture:

35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the “day and hour”! (Watchtower 15.08.1968, pp. 500-501 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?)

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Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak

by pale.emperor in

https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.

the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.

i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.

bennyk

1) First Corinthians 7:29 was written a long time ago.

2) I didn't know "Andre" cured his own OCD with a bullet to the head.

3) Of course the end is near -- why, of course! Deliverance is always at hand. Newbies may enjoy the following:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/118225/continually-pounding-deliverance-hand-drum.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

bennyk

I managed to watch the entire video without throwing up (!)

Evidently, Gramps (and others in his congregation) defied the Watch Tower Society (cf. film at 2:03):

35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the “day and hour”! (Watchtower 15.08.1968, pp. 500-501 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?)

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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

by AverageJoe1 in

new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

bennyk

"In recent years, many disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals have returned to Jehovah after having seen Jehovah’s Witnesses carrying out their ministry in public places. Others have approached the elders after reading a copy of the Return to Jehovah brochure or watching JW Broadcasting. (Luke 15:7) With such factors in mind, the Governing Body has determined that there is no longer a need for a formal arrangement to visit disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals each year."

So, evidently, intentional efforts to retrieve the ousted are less effective than chance happenings -- indeed, so very less effective that there is no longer a need for intentional efforts (?)

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Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."

by Island Man in

i'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.

in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.

feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".

bennyk

( From Bulldozer ):

***hb p.8 Blood Transfusions - How Safe?***

a transfusion is a tissue transplant.

***g90 10/22 p.9 Gift of Life or Kiss of Death?***

As cardiovascular surgeon Denton Cooley notes: "A blood transfusion is an organ transplant. . . . I think that there are certain incompatibilities in almost all blood transfusions."

***g99 8/22 p.31 Are Blood Transfusions Really Necessary?***

Blood is an organ of the body, and blood transfusion is nothing less than an organ transplant.

*********************************************************************************

Perhaps this was intended to introduce a change in the Blood policy?

***g00 1/8 Pioneers in Medicine***

[Footnote]

Jehovah's Witnesses view organ transplant operations as a matter of individual conscience.

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The definition of a false prophet

by HereIgo in

the last time i spoke to my mother, who is a devout jw, she threatened me with typical jw scare tactics telling me how oh so close the end is and how me and my 2 young daughters will be slaughtered by god himself in armageddon.

knowing that this is just a scare tactic, i respectfully listened, then replied that the jw's have wrongfully predicted the end of the world three times and were incorrect, 1914, 1925, 1975. i asked doesn't that make them false prophets?

her response; " no, because the brothers are imperfect and jehovah knew their heart was in a sincere place.

bennyk

The Watch Tower Society has been pounding the "deliverance-at-hand" drum since 1880.

(an olde threade possibly of interest to "newbies": continually-pounding-deliverance-hand-drum )

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Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.

i hope that they will never ask me that question.

any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.

bennyk

Shortly after I ceased attendance, one of the elders addressing my reservations regarding the Watch Tower Society stated that if I doubted that the Society is who they claim to be, he was certain I would "write a letter" [disassociating myself]. I didn't respond and the matter was dropped. At another interrogation with that Elder and another, the second Elder asked: "But you still believe that the Society is God's Organisation, right?" I told them that my research into the Society's history raised grave doubts and that it devolved on them to address my concerns. They did not do so, of course. But they also did not disfellowship me. That was in 2006.

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Wriggling Like A Worm On A Hook???

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

just been reading this week's study article for the jws:.

imagine that an experienced guide is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city.

the city is new to you and to those with you, so you hang on to the guide’s every word.

bennyk

Would the premature ideas and eager questions of the tourists cast doubt on the reliability of their guide?

Well, since they got their premature ideas from their guide (the Watch Tower Society -- clearly not the Holy Spirit)... YES. It proves the guide to be UNRELIABLE.

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Wriggling Like A Worm On A Hook???

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

just been reading this week's study article for the jws:.

imagine that an experienced guide is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city.

the city is new to you and to those with you, so you hang on to the guide’s every word.

bennyk

IMAGINE that a mentally-diseased would-be guide on LSD is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city. The city is new to you and to those with you, so you attempt to interpret the guide’s every incoherent word. At times, you and your fellow tourists wonder excitedly about some of the city’s features that you have not yet seen. When you ask your guide about such things, however, he simply guesses, because he has no idea what he is talking about. In time, you grow ever more disgusted with his incompetence, for he is proves himself an addled-brained twit.

"It's a hippopotamus herd... I mean a maroon 1992 Porsche 911... I mean the Eiffel-tower... I mean a faux leather rocking recliner... No -- genuine leather... I mean a dark green 1993 Porsche 911...."

Do mistaken ideas [promulgated as divinely-revealed truth] cast doubt on whether Jesus was guiding those faithful ones by means of holy spirit?

Why, yes; yes, it does!!! And when you find out that the Society has lied about their past...

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Why was the Watchtower named as such? CT Russell explains.

by biblexaminer in

if you look at the cover of the original 'the watch tower' it says;.

the watch tower .

and herald of christ's presence.

bennyk

[B]iblexaminer wrote: "So, for that gas bag to enter the lunchroom in 1914 at Bethel, after his failed prophecy, and announce to everyone that Jesus had indeed come, only invisibly, was a pharisaical affront of immense magnitude. That shitebag had been teaching that Jesus was already invisibly there for over 35 years and now he's going to.... what??? ....teach something new??? What?? Jesus came last night??? Holy cow... and now we see it was an invisible coming... STOP THE PRESSES"

The announcement made on 02. October 1914 was that the Gentile Times had ended. They were not told that the invisible presence had begun the previous evening.