How concerned could they be about accuracy and avoiding errors? They cannot even get their own history right...
bennyk
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November 2017 JW broadcasting HYPOCRISY!
by stuckinarut2 inok...so i am on a bit of a temper tantrum rant here...but if anyone has (endured) watched this month's broadcast, you will know what i mean!.
i have only watched 20 mins so far, and the hypocrisy is mind blowing.
they dare to go on about how thoroughly they research the material produced, so that errors are prevented etc.. for instance, the actually say how they ensure that a scientist is not misquoted, or that an "evolutionist" is not inaccurately quoted to make it seem like his comments are different to his intentions.
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bennyk
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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bennyk
The Society encouraged its affiliates to ignore that scripture:
35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the “day and hour”! (Watchtower 15.08.1968, pp. 500-501 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?)
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Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
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bennyk
1) First Corinthians 7:29 was written a long time ago.
2) I didn't know "Andre" cured his own OCD with a bullet to the head.
3) Of course the end is near -- why, of course! Deliverance is always at hand. Newbies may enjoy the following:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/118225/continually-pounding-deliverance-hand-drum.
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
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bennyk
I managed to watch the entire video without throwing up (!)
Evidently, Gramps (and others in his congregation) defied the Watch Tower Society (cf. film at 2:03):
35 One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the “day and hour”! (Watchtower 15.08.1968, pp. 500-501 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?)
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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones
by AverageJoe1 innew letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
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bennyk
"In recent years, many disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals have returned to Jehovah after having seen Jehovah’s Witnesses carrying out their ministry in public places. Others have approached the elders after reading a copy of the Return to Jehovah brochure or watching JW Broadcasting. (Luke 15:7) With such factors in mind, the Governing Body has determined that there is no longer a need for a formal arrangement to visit disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals each year."
So, evidently, intentional efforts to retrieve the ousted are less effective than chance happenings -- indeed, so very less effective that there is no longer a need for intentional efforts (?)
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Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."
by Island Man ini'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.
in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.
feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".
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bennyk
( From Bulldozer ):
***hb p.8 Blood Transfusions - How Safe?***
a transfusion is a tissue transplant.
***g90 10/22 p.9 Gift of Life or Kiss of Death?***
As cardiovascular surgeon Denton Cooley notes: "A blood transfusion is an organ transplant. . . . I think that there are certain incompatibilities in almost all blood transfusions."
***g99 8/22 p.31 Are Blood Transfusions Really Necessary?***
Blood is an organ of the body, and blood transfusion is nothing less than an organ transplant.
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Perhaps this was intended to introduce a change in the Blood policy?
***g00 1/8 Pioneers in Medicine***
[Footnote]
Jehovah's Witnesses view organ transplant operations as a matter of individual conscience.
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The definition of a false prophet
by HereIgo inthe last time i spoke to my mother, who is a devout jw, she threatened me with typical jw scare tactics telling me how oh so close the end is and how me and my 2 young daughters will be slaughtered by god himself in armageddon.
knowing that this is just a scare tactic, i respectfully listened, then replied that the jw's have wrongfully predicted the end of the world three times and were incorrect, 1914, 1925, 1975. i asked doesn't that make them false prophets?
her response; " no, because the brothers are imperfect and jehovah knew their heart was in a sincere place.
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bennyk
The Watch Tower Society has been pounding the "deliverance-at-hand" drum since 1880.
(an olde threade possibly of interest to "newbies": continually-pounding-deliverance-hand-drum )
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Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?
by Iamallcool inany elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.
i hope that they will never ask me that question.
any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.
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bennyk
Shortly after I ceased attendance, one of the elders addressing my reservations regarding the Watch Tower Society stated that if I doubted that the Society is who they claim to be, he was certain I would "write a letter" [disassociating myself]. I didn't respond and the matter was dropped. At another interrogation with that Elder and another, the second Elder asked: "But you still believe that the Society is God's Organisation, right?" I told them that my research into the Society's history raised grave doubts and that it devolved on them to address my concerns. They did not do so, of course. But they also did not disfellowship me. That was in 2006.
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Wriggling Like A Worm On A Hook???
by Disassociated Lady 2 injust been reading this week's study article for the jws:.
imagine that an experienced guide is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city.
the city is new to you and to those with you, so you hang on to the guide’s every word.
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bennyk
Would the premature ideas and eager questions of the tourists cast doubt on the reliability of their guide?
Well, since they got their premature ideas from their guide (the Watch Tower Society -- clearly not the Holy Spirit)... YES. It proves the guide to be UNRELIABLE.
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Wriggling Like A Worm On A Hook???
by Disassociated Lady 2 injust been reading this week's study article for the jws:.
imagine that an experienced guide is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city.
the city is new to you and to those with you, so you hang on to the guide’s every word.
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bennyk
IMAGINE that a mentally-diseased would-be guide on LSD is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city. The city is new to you and to those with you, so you attempt to interpret the guide’s every incoherent word. At times, you and your fellow tourists wonder excitedly about some of the city’s features that you have not yet seen. When you ask your guide about such things, however, he simply guesses, because he has no idea what he is talking about. In time, you grow ever more disgusted with his incompetence, for he is proves himself an addled-brained twit.
"It's a hippopotamus herd... I mean a maroon 1992 Porsche 911... I mean the Eiffel-tower... I mean a faux leather rocking recliner... No -- genuine leather... I mean a dark green 1993 Porsche 911...."
Do mistaken ideas [promulgated as divinely-revealed truth] cast doubt on whether Jesus was guiding those faithful ones by means of holy spirit?
Why, yes; yes, it does!!! And when you find out that the Society has lied about their past...