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  Archive Of DO & CO Talks

  by theopug in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  found this site: http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/covisits/docovisits.html.

  large collection of do and co talks.

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  bennyk

  Huh...

  I wonder why Charles Sinutko's talk "Serving With Everlasting Life in View" seems to be missing...
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  Any Elders comments on latest idea about Sisters

  by truthlover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just finished our 2 day and one of the talks by the do indicated that single sisters in the congregation are to be subservient to all male brothers in the hall..as well a widow too is of the same "status".

  is this a new thought or just now an open secret?.

  personally, i dont think that is good - after all there are many elders who although, supposedly appointed by hs, can be personally involved with porn behind closed doors or nasty with his wife and family.. i personally know of two like that .... why should i listen to a "stranger" about my life?

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  bennyk

  According to the Watch Tower Society, Sisters are not "subservient to all male brothers in the hall":

  "Single Sisters, not having a human head to consult with and confide in, may be apt to 'throw their burdens upon Jehovah." (Watchtower, 15. October 1996, p.13, paragraph 19)
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  Shunning supported by 2 Jo 9-10

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (2 john 9,10) 9 everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.

  he that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the father and the son.

  10 if anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.. .

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  bennyk

  You need to consider the context.

  Verse seven indicates that the writer has in mind persons "not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the anti-christ."

  The verse emphatically does not require the shunning of individuals who reject the unscriptural teachings of the Watch Tower Society. Indeed, it may be necessary to reject the Society's doctrines in order to "remain in the teaching of the Christ."
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  January 2013 Watchtower - HAVE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES GIVEN INCORRECT DATES FOR THE END?

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was just on the new jw.org site and i have to say, they've done a good job.

  it looks pretty sleek and is easy to navigate.

  the production values of their magazines (in particular the photos) seems to have improved since i last spent much time on the site.

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  bennyk

  Why, then, do we continue to highlight the nearness of the end? Because we take seriously Jesus’ words: “Keep looking, keep awake.” The alternative, to be found “sleeping” by Jesus, would prevent us from gaining his favor. (The Watchtower, 01.01.2012, p.8)

  Jesus said: "Keep looking, keep awake." He did not say: 'Continue prophesying falsely' as though that were the only alternative to "sleeping"(!)

  Furthermore, because of their erroneous beliefs, in 1914 the affiliates of the Watch Tower Society were the only Body of believers who did not "keep looking" for the Parousia to begin. (They believed it had already begun in 1874).
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  How do I disprove "New Light"?

  by DarkFireWolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i currently am a jw and my parents are too.they seem either confused or dislike it when i raise questions and recently, when i questioned them about 1925 and 1975, i've been told it's changed due to "new light.

  " i don't remember nor do i have very much knowledge of "new light.".

  this "new light" just dosen't sit with me and neither do the false prophecies.new light first of all, breaks a scripture in deut.

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  bennyk

  I like to quote the earlier Watch Tower's:

  All truth is in harmony, whether old or new. What

  was true at any time in the past must be true yet....

  and if it is not true now, instead of being advanced

  light then it was terrible darkness. [...] We have

  sometimes been accused by unbelievers for teaching

  that the true way to advance was to displace the

  truth we learned yesterday by new truth learned to-

  day; but we utterly repudiate the absurd charge. To

  grow in knowledge is to retain the truth we have

  and add to our stock.

  (Zion’s Watch Tower July 1880 WTR p. 119)

  If we were following a man undoubtedly it would be

  different with us; undoubtedly one human idea

  would contradict another and that which was light

  one or two or six years ago would be regarded as

  darkness now: But with God there is no

  variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is

  with truth; any knowledge or light coming from

  God must be like its author. A new view of truth

  never can contradict a former truth. "New light"

  never extinguishes older "light," but adds to it. If

  you were lighting up a building containing seven

  gas jets you would not extinguish one every time

  you lighted another, but would add one light to

  another and they would be in harmony and thus give

  increase of light: So is it with the light of truth; the

  true increase is by adding to, not by substituting one

  for another.

  (Zion's Watch Tower February 1881 WTR p. 188)
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  January 2013 Watchtower - HAVE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES GIVEN INCORRECT DATES FOR THE END?

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was just on the new jw.org site and i have to say, they've done a good job.

  it looks pretty sleek and is easy to navigate.

  the production values of their magazines (in particular the photos) seems to have improved since i last spent much time on the site.

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  bennyk

  (recycled old post [19.10.2012]):

  [A]ny mistaken expectations about the end do not alter the unmistakable features identifying these as “the last days.”—2 Timothy 3:1. (The Watchtower, 01.01.2013, p.7)

  Alrighty, then. Russell's 37 year prophecy regarding the End coming in 1914 did not alter the unmistakable (and indisputable) features identifying those as part of "the last days" (which [according to the Watch Tower Society] ran from A.D. 1799 - 1914).

  THE ''Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years,
  from A. D. I 7 9 9 to A. D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures.
  (Thy Kingdom Come, p. 23)

  THE careful student will have observed that the period
  designated "The Time of the End " is very appropriately
  named, since not only does the Gospel age close in it,
  but in it, also, all prophecies relating to the close of this age
  terminate, reaching their fulfilments. The same class of
  readers will have noticed, too, the special importance of
  the last 40 of those 115 years (1874-1914), called "The
  End" or "Harvest." (Thy Kingdom Come, p. 121)

  Could someone please ask the Writing Department to do some thinking before printing?!?!
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  I think I stumbled onto the eventual plan for the governing body teaching today.....

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on the jw.org site, look at the 2/1/2012 public wt, page 27 of the pdf...section 4"how are jehovah's witnesses organized today".

  if anybody noticed, i mentioned i thought that no mention of 'faithful and discreet slave' possibly since 2010 in the public placed wt's.

  i've read all of them backtracking to 2/1/2012 so far, and so far, my suspicion has proven true, no mention.

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  BluesBrother --

  According to Stephen Lett: "F&DS – Small group of anointed Christians, living at Head Quarters, during Christ’s presence, who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. Note--- Individual members are not F&DS. Only when they work as a body are they such!"

  (But, of course, this teaching is subject to change.)
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  Loyalty Questions in Judicial Hearings

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've seen several posts on various threads about a particular "loyalty question" or two that elders ask during judicial hearings.

  granted it's been several years since i was an elder, but i never heard of this practice.

  is there anything officially in print on this from the wt?

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  bennyk

  How on earth could "Those Who Have Not Associated for Many Years" also "have a measure of contact or association with the congregation"??? They're mutually exclusive.

  I believe it is intended thus: People who are no longer affiliated may work with or have a social relationship with members of the congregation.

  Shortly after I ceased attendance, one of the elders addressing my reservations regarding the Watch Tower Society stated that if I doubted that the Society is who they claim to be, he was certain I would "write a letter" [disassociating myself]. I didn't respond and the matter was dropped. At another interrogation, a different elder asked: "But you still believe that the Society is God's Organisation, right?" I told them that my research into the Society's history raised grave doubts and that it devolved on them to address my concerns. They did not do so, of course. But they also did not disfellowship me.
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  Dialects of the Loaded (aka “Pure”) Language

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  usually, jws will speak and act with rigid uniformity and as seen via the kingdomhallofjw videos, the uniformity is scarily similar from region to region.. .

  however...what differences are there in the jw loaded language?

  for instance, ive always heard or said the expression going in service, however, ive noticed in a few instances where some have said going on service.

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  American "English" vs. British English.

  e.g. 'at the doors', 'on the doors'
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  New 16 page WT & AWAKE available on jw.org

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  needless to say it's the same old rubbish.

  the wt has the usual 'doom & gloom front cover, end of the world, fireball, people running in panic.... george.

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  bennyk

  [A]ny mistaken expectations about the end do not alter the unmistakable features identifying these as “the last days.”—2 Timothy 3:1. (The Watchtower, 15.01.2013, p.7)

  Alrighty, then. Russell's 37 year prophecy regarding the End coming in 1914 did not alter the unmistakable (and indisputable) features identifying those as part of "the last days" (which [according to the Watch Tower Society] ran from A.D. 1799 - 1914).

  THE ''Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years,
  from A. D. I 7 9 9 to A. D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures.
  (Thy Kingdom Come, p. 23)

  THE careful student will have observed that the period
  designated "The Time of the End " is very appropriately
  named, since not only does the Gospel age close in it,
  but in it, also, all prophecies relating to the close of this age
  terminate, reaching their fulfilments. The same class of
  readers will have noticed, too, the special importance of
  the last 40 of those 115 years (1874-1914), called "The
  End" or "Harvest." (Thy Kingdom Come, p. 121)

  Could someone please ask the Writing Department to do some thinking before printing?!?!