Posts by adelmaal

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Move on...

by mrsjones5 in

as i was taking my shower this morning i was musing about certain posts i had read the day before.

the one about the tampons just tickled me to no end.

crazy stuff people will do to enforce whatever crazy ideas they have about human sexuality.

adelmaal

However, I know that this is not the same situation in California. As far as I know, the immigration there is indeed illegal for the most part.
Although I can understand where you're coming from (and you made some good points in your post), do think about the following. Suppose you lived in a poor country, you and your family were really very poor and couldn't make ends meet. Would the thought ever cross your mind to 'immigrate' to a place where you could make a better living for yourself, and where your kids could have an education, and perhaps a future? When all is said and done, both sides of the fence are tough to be on.
I am an immigrant myself, but I didn't come here because I was poor. Au contraire, today I'm making about 25% of what I made in Europe 14 years ago. I fulfill my duties to the community and think I have contributed to the general well being of the area where I live, by being involved closely with nature preserve, as well as volunteering for diverse non profit organizations. But all this has not stopped people from pointing the finger at me and telling me that I should go back to where I came from.

fairchild:

i have no issues with what you said and i am happy to have you here in this country.

it is "illegal" immigration i am concerned with. i am not on the other side of the fence so i cannot say for a certainty how i would handle it. i know i would want a better life for my family in the situation you described above. i would like to think i would obey the laws of the country which i wanted to immigrate to though. i would not be looking for handouts. i would contribute to society as you do. i feel the same way on this side of the fence though. i want a better life for my family and i try to make that a reality by taking a stand on the issues that affect us as citizens.

i am glad we are a melting pot in this country and i am happy to have immigrants here. what i have a problem with is people breaking the law by coming here illegally and my family suffering as a result of it. while i can respect their reasons for doing so i do not like the end result. i have plenty of friends who have immigrated here legally and they are just as bitter. Sometimes even moreso because they had to jump through hoops to be here and make a better life for their family while there are those who take advantage of the kindness of others by milking the system.

i spoke merely from my own perspective being a resident in california. i do not know about immigration and its affects elsewhere. i have heard from some friends who have immigrated here though that the laws regarding immigration in their homelands are much stricter and much less forgiving than ours here in the US.

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Six Billion Hearts Will Soon Stop Beating. . .

by ACEofCAD in

jw
friends

announced our circuit overseer last night in his talk about the urgency to preach because of the times.

followed by a silence that was broken with ohhhs and ahhhs.

he said that a couple of times throughout his part, simulating a beating heart with his fist.

adelmaal

In the above verse, they use the singular for the wicked one , and plural for the meek ones
Does this mean that there will be more saved that destroyed?

That's how I see it through my rose colored glasses... Personally, I choose to believe this scripture is speaking of Satan being destroyed and those who love God being saved.

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Six Billion Hearts Will Soon Stop Beating. . .

by ACEofCAD in

jw
friends

announced our circuit overseer last night in his talk about the urgency to preach because of the times.

followed by a silence that was broken with ohhhs and ahhhs.

he said that a couple of times throughout his part, simulating a beating heart with his fist.

adelmaal

How genocidal of them!

That comment made me think of the move "Hotel Rwanda", which I recently went to see. I cried my eyes out. I think about that movie and then think the JWs want that to happen to the whole world, which does not correspond to their way of thinking. It is truly scary to really sit back and think about what I used to believe. And yet I would have cried back then watching "Hotel Rwanda" as well. All the while not even thinking about the fact that the majority of those people were not JWs so they would eventually have been destroyed anyways - truly deluded.

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Six Billion Hearts Will Soon Stop Beating. . .

by ACEofCAD in

jw
friends

announced our circuit overseer last night in his talk about the urgency to preach because of the times.

followed by a silence that was broken with ohhhs and ahhhs.

he said that a couple of times throughout his part, simulating a beating heart with his fist.

adelmaal

And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.

Funny their definition of the wicked "one" includes 6 million fellow human beings. Sounds like a grossly exaggerated personal opinion to me... The above scripture really seems to put the wicked one in singular terms to me. Could it have been speaking of Satan and not mankind in general? or could it have been speaking of another time - like way back when the Bible was written? Could it have been not necessarilly a literal but figurative statement? Hmmm... I wonder if the JWs even ask themselves these questions...

Show no compassion

Now that's brilliant! Very Godlike and Jesus was certainly a shining example of non-compassion, right? Sad... It sounds like your friend has bought there loveless doctrines hook line and sinker.

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Six Billion Hearts Will Soon Stop Beating. . .

by ACEofCAD in

jw
friends

announced our circuit overseer last night in his talk about the urgency to preach because of the times.

followed by a silence that was broken with ohhhs and ahhhs.

he said that a couple of times throughout his part, simulating a beating heart with his fist.

adelmaal

. . . announced our Circuit Overseer last night in his talk about the urgency to preach because of the times. Followed by a silence that was broken with ohhhs and ahhhs. He said that a couple of times throughout his part, simulating a beating heart with his fist. I don't think that I have ever heard the message about the upcoming doom of nearly all life put quite like that. His comments bothered me but what disturbs me more is that almost everyone there seemed all too happy about it.

That's truly sickening and the fact that people could actually take pleasure in the thought, look forward to such a thing and not question the logic of it really goes to show how brainwashed they are. Whatever happened to the God is love concept?

When I was a JW I would have sat there like everyone else and now that I'm not it's crazy to see how stupid and heartless I was to think such things about fellow humans.

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I know, lets send bio-terror hazard around the world !

by Simon in

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what a great idea, ... brilliant !!.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4440541.stm.

adelmaal

Well, this seems to be a joint effort in stupidity by the worlds scientific community.
We need scientists to study things but I think they need to be kept on a tight leash as otherwise their 'enthusiasm' will kill us all (or at least a few football-pitch-fulls)

I dread the thought that this could happen with something as lethal as ebola or the like...

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I know, lets send bio-terror hazard around the world !

by Simon in

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what a great idea, ... brilliant !!.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4440541.stm.

adelmaal

Simon:

I mean this in the sweetest most giggling way . When I saw the title of this post I just knew you had to be the poster and I just knew it would have to be about something horrible the US was doing. I was 2 for 2 - LOL.

Smooches and good luck in your efforts to yet again expose the atrocities of the ~~world~~USA .

Given the concerns that the virus could be used in bio-terrorism, letters were sent to the laboratories before the mistake was made public.
Dr Stohr said the College of American Pathologists had not violated US regulations, which are now being revised.
The virus - technically known as H2N2 - was classified as Biological Safety Level 2, meaning that it was not considered particularly dangerous.

From the looks of the above info. it sounds to me like the messup is being rectified and lessons learned are causing adjustments to be made so as to avoid any future problems.

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A comment I heard tonight

by Generic Man in

tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.

the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.

through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.

adelmaal

OldSoul... You truly are patient and long suffering. Wipe the dust off your feet already .

Do you think Schizm is counting you as one of his Bible studies yet?

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New member, question thats been asked many times, but how do you feel ?

by Greyeyes in

i came across this site, and while still my upbringing says i should stay away from such site, i had to join.

a bit of a background about me.

i'm 31, my parents became witnesses when i was born so they could give me the best upbringing they felt possible.

adelmaal

So you are looking for people to interact with who feel that the WTS is right and good but, for whatever reasons, don't want to follow its teachings and live according to its standards?

I think allot of us felt that way when we initially left. Prior to broadening our horizons and learning the truth about the truth.

I agree somewhat with what was said earlier. The truth is that no person nor any manmade organization has all the answers. If they claim to then you should be suspicious.

The JWs claim to have all the answers and yet they have been proven wrong on more than one occasion (i.e. 1975, 1914, 607 BCE, whole blood vs. blood parts, organ transplants, the requirement to scream if you are raped, whether or not it's ok to accept alternative service instead of going to war if drafted, etc.). Their version of the light getting brighter and brighter is not the truth becoming more and more profound. It is mistakes being corrected over time by presenting new light.

God has the truth and it has not/does not change. Why should it have to be hard to have a relationship with him? We each need to figure out for ourselves how he wants to be worshipped and what he expects from us. You cannot rely on someone else to feed you this information. We each render our own account before God and we owe it to ourselves to form our own opinions based on everything we've learned from all different sources.

IMHO - I feel a bit sorry for loyal JWs. It's really hard to have a personal relationship with God when you are so busy trying to uphold the rules and standards of men.

Where in the Bible do you find disfellowshipping. Where in the Bible does it say one should be disfellowshipped for taking a blood transfusion, for believing differently than the religion you belong to, for celebrating holidays? Where do the words blood transfusion, holidays, voting, etc. appear in the Bible. Where does the Bible state specifically that only 144,000 go to heaven, only certain ones should partake, that voting is prohibited, etc.? Those are all opinions formed based on piecing together 1 or 2 scriptures on each subject from various parts of the Bible. Hardly, hard and fast facts stated in the Bible. There are many opinions and who said God chose a specific organization to voice them on his behalf? We have the Bible and we should be able to think for ourselves and use it.

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Move on...

by mrsjones5 in

as i was taking my shower this morning i was musing about certain posts i had read the day before.

the one about the tampons just tickled me to no end.

crazy stuff people will do to enforce whatever crazy ideas they have about human sexuality.

adelmaal

Not so long as this post keeps getting bumped to the top - LOL