Hmm.. I rather enjoy EWM. I think he helped me on my journey. Of course, I have now "outgrown" his teachings after reading COC and ISOCF....
But for what information I did get, I am thankful.
i thought i would troll down to e-watchman and ended up at the greasy spoon 'paradise cafe' link then i was re-directed to e-jehovahs-witnesses.com.
now that he has at last got his self righteous come-uppance and been booted out of the brownies it looks like he is trying to be an alternative jw.com, but will fail just as his ramblings have failed him.
Hmm.. I rather enjoy EWM. I think he helped me on my journey. Of course, I have now "outgrown" his teachings after reading COC and ISOCF....
But for what information I did get, I am thankful.
my baptisim is null and void, due to breech of contract and insider trading.
you used to look so good at the pupit, in your sheep suit.
*old light, new light, psuedo light, night light* lights out, say your prayers.
Woa! I had to read that three times. Welcome m.kirov.
Your right - Dorothy's ruby slippers did have the power the whole time. Geez - that's a good analogy, we could expand on that.. Any other similarities you notice between JW's and The Wizard of OZ??
the slave has lied to me for years
my eyes fill with tears
all wrong dates
The slave has lied to me for years
When I think of it ? my eyes fill with tears
1914-18-25-75 ? All wrong dates
Yet they would seal my fate.
Regimentation, abuse and rudeness prevail
The love of many has grown stale.
If on doors we do not call
There will be no new faces at the Hall.
Growth is at a near stand still
Could this really be God?s will?
The elders are appointed judges by God
With almost no training ? isn?t that odd
Three men in the backroom disfellowship all
Who, for some unspoken reason, may stumble or fall
Not speaking to them will never end
Families broken with no chance to mend
This is God?s house ? or so they say
God?s visible organization that he uses today
A worldwide Christian brotherhood they have made
A foundation for organizational worship has been laid
Meetings are priority number one!
Certainly not the Father or Son
They fired Jesus in 1985
Organizational worship could now survive
Mind control has taken over now
To the organization we can bow
They control our conscience and every move
Strict organizational obedience we must prove
Just try to leave and you will find
This organization is so unkind
No matter what the problem ? it was always me
The Slave will never take responsibility
Let?s pray to God and hope he hears
Before more damage to our heart and mind comes near
Praise God from whom all blessings flow
That some day truth about the truth people will know.
one slightly used briefcase.
also known as a "service bag".
all leather, great condition.
One slightly used briefcase. Also known as a "service bag". All leather, great condition. Will accept trades. What do you have?
Just cleaning out my closet!!!
i am going to the memorial because i am still confused and stressed and discombobulated on the jw issue.
i know in my heart it is "not" the truth.
my family keeps stopping by unannouced and seeing if i am going.
Hang in there. I am going this year too. It'll be my last time as part of the fading process. We all have to go in our own time. As for what to say - hmm. Try questioning your family as to what it was that Jesus asked us to do. To which the response will be "keep doing this in remembrance of me." Than you say, "Doing what?" The correct response would be partake, but JW's wont say that. Then ask if we really are doing what Jesus was telling us to do.
Just a thought. I'm sure you'll do fine
watchman, as many know from reformer websites such as (1) e-watchman.com and (2) e-jehovahs-witnesses.com discussion board, has been officially disfellowshipped from all congregations of jehovah's witnesses!.
here is the link to the sudden change in status for him: .
http://www.e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/viewtopic.php?p=41406&sid=196154f73a3336c977fb1315fb5183e4#41406.
Well -- I now refuse to talk to him, nor will I be inviting him over for dinner!
i remember the elders telling us that we had to let everyone know that we were a jw.
does your boss know that you're a jw?
does your teacher know?
Ya - i've told co-workers. But i've also included them in my journey out. I can't wait to hear what happens when anyone of my co-workers gets a knock on the door. The JW on the other side will get an ear full!!
....whiskey somethin' or other...right?
i think i saw a bunch of "i'm new here" threads but i was a jerk and didn't post on them.
all you new guys sign in here so i know who i'm dealing with.
Wow Dutchy - a "real picture".
I hope to have half your courage some day. Welcome!!
so - yesterday was my first post.
thanks for all the feedback.
i'm still familiarizing myself with all the board features (like how to post in the correct place!).
So - yesterday was my first post. Thanks for all the feedback. I'm still familiarizing myself with all the board features (like how to post in the correct place!)
For all who asked, I am from central Wisconsin. I have probably seen all of you Wisconsin-nites at one time or another as my father used to be an elder. He gave talks all around the state. Heck I've even been on circuit assembly parts. Hmm - wonder if I would ever get called back to do a follow-up?
I harbor no resentment growing up as a JW, in fact it gave me a sense of self-esteem (Ya know, I had "the truth", which meant everybody else was wrong).
It wasn't till I moved to a different town and hence a different congregation, that I began to notice some irregularities. I would tell others that they needed to get out and go to other halls, as they would then see how things were supposed to be. Little did I know that the problem was systemic, not just local. More on that later.
So - I do have a question though. How do you respond to a private message?
well - this is my first post.
i want to express my gratitude to all of you in jwd land for the help you provide.
i'd be glad to relate stories, and experiences in the future, but wanted to introduce myself first.
Well - this is my first post. I want to express my gratitude to all of you in JWD land for the help you provide. I'd be glad to relate stories, and experiences in the future, but wanted to introduce myself first.