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  Crisis of Conscience

  by Kristofer in

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  i just finished reading this book.

  i've got to say, that last chapter was amazing and so inspiring.

  i haven't felt that good after reading a book in a long time.

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  I Read it during the winter of 1995-1996, keeping it hid and reading little bits at a time. Actualy my curosity was raised by postings I had seen on the Old Prodigy Bulletin boards. One post was from a Woman named Margie and she stated that if a person could read COC and remain a witness they would be a pretty good witness. Well, 10 years latter I'm still a witness technicaly speaking. But she was right, because I know longer beleive it's the truth. Regardless of what a persons oppinion of Ray is, the real issue is if it,(what he says)is true or false? Much of what he says is not able to be said to be false, because its well documented. So what does that mean? My sumation of it is this. Ray is a man like me with his on set of weaknesses and problems, he didn't try to deny that. He admited he was wrong and should have stood up for what was right sooner. I think Ray should at least be commended for being respectfull at the same time as being truthfull. He could have taken the low road and slammed everyone and everybody he ever knew and fostered a hatred of anybody or anything witness related, but he didn't do that. If your going to read it because you've already formed a hatred for the Orginazation I'd recomend skipping it and reading a good novel instead. But if you are still wanting to worship God and are having diffuculty copping with some of the things you see that don't seem right then I think it would be good to read. When the book is read, I think the reader would do well to focus on the big picture, and that is that God doesn't want people to worship him through and orginazation, But only through his son. Putting faith in him. That's what it means to be a Christian. seek2find
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  What about the Children?

  by seek2find in

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  something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the children.

  why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people.

  many churches and church groups have extensive ministrys to reach young people.

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  To Soapy Dish: I'm glad you have some good memorys of your childhood down in Mexico, I wonder if the atmosphere was different there because of the cultural differences, or if it had something to do with the organizations registerd status as a educational organization rather than a religion. When you have some time could you shed some lite on this for us as someone who actualy lived there. I hear that they didn't sing songs at the Hall. Is that true?
  
  To Lady Liberty: I appreaciated your comments, especialy the part about being easily manipulated. I feel sometimes like my whole life has been lived as a puppet with numerous strings attached. The way I moved and the things I did were dependant on which strings were pulled. seek2find
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  What about the Children?

  by seek2find in

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  something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the children.

  why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people.

  many churches and church groups have extensive ministrys to reach young people.

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  I guess the kids just get the short end of the stick all the way around, if they are not being abused physicaly or sexualy, they are being chastised, isolated and alienated. seek2find
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  What about the Children?

  by seek2find in

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  something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the children.

  why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people.

  many churches and church groups have extensive ministrys to reach young people.

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  Balsam, So sorry to hear of the pain your family has been through. I hope your 2 surviving boys are doing well and still have maintained a beleif in God, despite what they have been though. seek2find
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  What about the Children?

  by seek2find in

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  something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the children.

  why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people.

  many churches and church groups have extensive ministrys to reach young people.

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  Lady Lee: I think you are right. Field service is suppose to be the answer to everything. Is there any problem that its not suppose to fix? (GRIN)
  
  I suppose those who were abused during childhood are just suppose to go in service more. Maybe service would be easier if the real good news were being preached. That is, that Jesus is the "Way the truth and the life" John 14:6 Please pardon me if I seem cynical or angry, I guess I just need to vent.
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  What about the Children?

  by seek2find in

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  something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the children.

  why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people.

  many churches and church groups have extensive ministrys to reach young people.

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  alamb: "What do you mean there's less to hold them in?" I don't quite understand.
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  What about the Children?

  by seek2find in

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  something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the children.

  why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people.

  many churches and church groups have extensive ministrys to reach young people.

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  Something that's really been eating at me latley is how during my growing up in the orginazation and now my childrens growing up in it, nothing has been done on an organizational level to benifit the Children. Why has there never been any organizational focus on the need for congregations to sponsor activities for young people. Many churches and Church groups have extensive Ministrys to reach young people. Why not Jehovah's Witnesses? I keep hearing about how concearned they are about young people, but still nothing outside of a few books has ever been done. Does this bother anyone else?? Seek2find
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  To all the faders who still go to meetings

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  to the ones who still must go for family sakes .... what feelings/thoughts go through you at the meetings???.

  mine are:.

  "damm, i wish my folks would have not been suckered in, i could be doing something purposeful.".

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  "Good night said the nightman, we are programmed to receive, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave" These words from the Eagles song Hotel California echo in my head nearly every meeting. Anyone relate? seek2find
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  Pancake Day

  by Ellie in

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  is anyone else making pancakes tonight?.

  i'm going to make some with ice cream and chocolate sauce, unless someone can suggest something better.

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  Who won the race? Olney, or Liberal?
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  Christian discussion

  by seek2find in

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  would it be possible to have a section of this board for discussion from a christian prospective?

  many people who leave jws or are thinking about leaving, would like to maintain the title and way of life as a christian, and it would be nice if there was a place here for them to discuss topics of interest and doctrinal issues with others who also want to be christians, without annoying those who no longer beleive in god or have taken an agnostic stand.

  i think it might serve to atract more lurkers if they knew that they could post thoughts and concerns, to others who could offer encouragement from a christian prospective.

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  Thanks to all for their imput. I'll welcome PMs from all who have left or are thinking of leaving who want to stay (or become) Christian. Peace to all, seek2find