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  When did The Watchtower stop printing Convention Reports?

  by VM44 in

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  the watchtower used to print "souvenir" booklets to record the happenings at their assemblies and conventions.. then it became a "convention report".. these come up from time to time for auction on ebay.. but convention reports are not published anymore by the watchtower.

  when did they stop?.

  does anyone know the year the last convention report was published?.

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  I was 12 Years old in 1969 and remember going to The 8 dayer in the Braves stadium in Atlanta Georgia. We drove 130 Miles one way, every day morning and evening for the first 5 days. The session wasn't over until 9:00 PM and by the time we drove 130 Miles home (It took at least an hour to get out of the stadium and to our car and took about an hour to get out of Atlanta), it was 1:30 to 2:00 AM and we got up at 6 AM to do it again. Now the organization is worried about people not being able to make it to the Tuesday night book study because of it being such a "Burden". Wow things have really deteriorated over the years. seek2find
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  A Critique of GB Anthony Morris’s 2007 Convention Talk - Barb Anderson

  by Dogpatch in

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  a painstaking satire/critique of gb anthony morriss 2007 convention talk, .

  http://www.freeminds.org/women/morris2007.htm.

  they keep following the lamb no matter where he goes".

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  I don't know if all these talks were given word for word from an outline or manuscript,they must not have been. I heard the one given by Governing body member Sam Herd and I remember him saying "We should trust the Faithful and discreet slave completely, it's God's arrangement for salvation" When I heard that statement it was like a final nail closing the door shut. It was a defining moment when the bells and sirens went off in my head and I knew without a doubt, that JWs had missed the mark and was not, and could not be the truth. The words of Peter came to my mind in Acts the fourth chapter when speaking of Christ, he said "there is no other name under Heaven by which men must get saved" seek2find
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  Should I mention the pedophiles?

  by reneeisorym in

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  2. friends

  i have been asked to speak about my experiences at my church sunday to a group of 20-40 year olds.

  any suggestions on what to say?

  i'm especially considering if i should talk about the pedophiles .... .

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  One thing that comes to my mind and that I'm going through right now, is this. I show my wife how the Bible says that Jesus is the way to Salvation like at John 14:6 and Acts 4:12. She says she beleives that. But then turns around and implies that if I don't come back and get re-instated, I will die at Armageddon. It's inconsistent. JW's main problem is their reasoning on Matt:24:45-47. There is no "faithfull slave class", that was another of many illustrations Jesus used that wasn't meant to be taken literally. The slave represented individual Christians who were to do what their master wanted until he returned. In my opinion. The Watchtower sets itself up in the Place of Christ. Blasphemy! Sorry to vent, good luck with your presentation. seek2find
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  Have you found a new bible translation you like?

  by New light for you in

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  2. friends

  i know, it seems like half of everyone that leaves turns athiest.... but for those of us out there, who figure on still being christian, have you found a translation of the bible that you belive lives "up to par"?

  i'm really trying to research, but there's so many, i wondered if you had any input!.

  thanks!.

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  Hello, and welcome to JWD! I'am always happy to see someone who's left but still wanting to remain a Christian (or become one which ever way you want to look at it.) As far as Bible translations are concerned, I like the NIV, but I do a lot of comparasions with other translations. What I find interesting is that I haven't ran across any so far that have an appendix in the back that has to explain their way of wording certain verses, like the NWT does. This ought to raise a red flag to the thinking JW that something is not quite right about the translation. You might like to read the Paper version of Gods word, but if you don't mind reading on your computer, I recommend a program called E-Sword thats available for free via download. I use it every day along with the audio versions supplied by www.biblegateway.com. If you or anyone else needs help using e-sword please PM me and I'll try to help. There's even a way to get the NWT into it for comparasion purposes. It's a great tool. I'm thankful to Rick Meyers for developing the program and to God for his help in finding it. Take care, seek2find
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  State Truthful Facts About JWs That Make Them Look Bad, Weird, Foolish

  by minimus in

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  you don't need to exaggerate the foibles of jws to get the point across that they are not "the truth".

  can you state some facts that show that jehovah's witnesses are not "normal' and that their religion is weird and simply abnormal?.

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  Better not think of joining the YMCA or anything else with Christian in the name. seek2find
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  Peter Gregersons cabin, 1983, were you there?

  by Gregor in

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  my sister and i were there.

  there about 12-15 others but i only remember a few names, the gregersons, ray franz and wife, dan dykstra, ron frye, leonard & marjorie chretien.

  i remember the faces but the names were misplaced with my notes years ago.. anyone?.

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  I wasn't there, but I knew the Gregersons. They came to Gadsden, in the late 60s or early 70s. I was friends with The youngest son Doug. Their kids as I remember were, Peter junior, David, Doug, Vicki and Debbie I spent a night or 2 in their home. I left the area about 1974 and lost contact with them. Does anyone know where Doug is now? Are you on here Doug? seek2find
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  What would keep you in?

  by DisconnectingDrone in

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  for those still "in" but looking for an exit, what changes to current practices/teaching would make you decide to stay "in" ?

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  Well, now that I'm out nothing can keep me in. However to get me to go back, several things would have to happen. First more emphasis on the Bible alone as the guide for our lives. Admission that literature is supplemental and as such, is not the word of God. The Faith full slave teaching and the 1914 doctrine would have to go also, or be modified so that full acceptance is optional. These changes are not likely. So I guess, I'm permanently out. seek2find
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  Let Us Now Welcome CandleLight ...

  by snowbird in

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  welcome and thanks for your positive posts.. sylvia.

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  Welcome candlelight and husband! You guys are great. Stick around and help make this a more positive place! PLEASE! seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

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  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  Thanks for the info Tom. seek2find
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  A question about Crisis of Conscience

  by seek2find in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the first time i read this book was an older copy in the mid 1990s.

  that copy was burnt by a family member and i no longer have it.

  in the newest version which i downloaded in pdf i'm having trouble finding a particular part.

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  To inthepink: It's not in the PDF copy and there is no listing in the index for either of those names. What is the date of your copy? I wonder if it got left out of the newer editions and why? seek2find