chuckky's series of threads about the death of his father-in-law prompt this.
when is the right time to send letters to the editor, or contact the newspaper about the cruelty and vindictiveness from the local boe?
there are hundreds, if not thousands of stories on this board that are so clearly not just a case of congregational discipline.
Re: Revenge? or Disclosure?
Vengeful people are often lured into telling lies and believing their own. However in doing this they will disclose more about themselves than they intend to. Robert Burns "oh would the giftie gie us to see oursels as others see us"
this past year i turned 30, my father in law is visiting and he's turning 62 tomorrow so i'm baking him a cake.
i have been thinking about aging and how it seems very normal to me.
if adam and eve sinned and no longer were going to live forever, how come there aren't plants and animals that were also living forever.
Re: The idea of perfection and living forever
And a very neat idea it is. Already over 6 million believe it and with the increase we are seeing in witnessing activity, there may be millions more. Wait and see!
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my brother called me today.he is 20 ,3 years younger than me,and out of the religion.he still has fear though that it could be true,but thats another story.. he told me he heard my mother and father talking upstairs.my mother said about the org "ive put 26 years into it,i think i'm done with it,i might just go sunday from now on".this is huge ,because she was a devoted nutjob witness.she made my life horrible for the 1st 17 years of my life.i had been trying to suddly tell her the truth about the troof,but i didn't expect this.i'm happy and yet i want to know where she stands with the borganization.. this along with what seems to be an outpouring of similar stories,i have a gut feeling the jehovahs witness mind control cult is on the brink of implosion.everyone is so burdened by it.the jig is up,gb,good riddance when you fold.the rank and file have had enough.my 2 younger sisters are on the edge of mental freedom.i hope they can fully get free of it.. this is a milestone in my families long and strange trip in mental enslavement!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The org is going down----I can feel it!
with the streamlining of printing plants and installation of new labour saving presses, in us. japan, brazil, britain and mexico, literature production is projected for an increase. 262,000 plus baptised last year. Going down? It wouldn't seem so.
just once.. i was on the way home from the 1958 assembly at yankee stadium.
we were aboard the "arosa sun" and sailing from new york to plymouth, england.
the ship was pretty well 50 - 50 split between british and german.. when we arrived at plymouth, the british contingent disembarked whilst the germans stayed on board to continue on to bremerhaven.
Re: Were You Ever Moved To Tears By A JW Moment Like In The Movies?
Its tough when those who cry become the butt of jokes of those who can't empathise. Sometimes there are things deep down there which can't get out. Gratuitous cruelty demonstrates it .
1. when we post to this forum?
best answered by the reader.
2. when we don't post to this forum?
1. when we post to this forum? Best answered by the reader.
2. when we don't post to this forum? Not guaranteed.
3. when we let someone else make up our mind? Not true :
4. when we read the Bible every day and allow it to influence our life? (getting warm!)
5. when we take the critics seriously. (the water getting a little chilly)
6. when we become 'our own person' i.e. make the truth our own (here we go!)
7. when we dedicate our life to serve God (who opened the starting gate?)
Please feel free to add 'true' or 'false'
Although the questions number to 7, this does not confer perfection but doesn't hurt to aim for it.
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how regretful it must be to strive to free others from a perceived religious slavery and then gradually to realise our 'liberty' and ?reasonableness?
amounts to an enslavement to our own selfishness?
and to discover that we look the same and are just as worthless as anyone else?s little tin gods.
How regretful it must be to strive to free others from a perceived religious slavery and then gradually to realise our 'liberty' and ?reasonableness? amounts to an enslavement to our own selfishness? And to discover that we look the same and are just as worthless as anyone else?s little tin gods. It doesn't have to be that way, though.
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perhaps they will only speak about orthodox islam people and refer to physically voilent actions , does anybody ever tried ,and had any other experiance?.
anuva
Re: if a Devout JW is asked to define 'religious fanatic'?
Jesus as a devout Jehovah's Witness, used an illustration which provides some definition. He called the Scribes and Pharisees "You Brood of Vipers". So there would be venom from those who in their imagination may imagine that they are the "Kings of the Jungle" (perhaps in the undergrowth of religious debate) (lurking and ready to strike at anything that passes by on the high ground of true worship. Religious fanatics indeed!
in holly's good-bye thread, quotes mentioned that he felt that some people were better off in high-control groups.
i've heard othes say similar things.. but i have a difficult time with this.
is it not true that high-control groups stiffle a person's emotional and intellectual development?
Are Some people really better off in high-control groups?
There are at least two 'organisations' which are perceived by some as 'high control groups' . But are those perceptions the reality? In one group you see them happy, smiling and the members will reassure you that that they are indeed BETTER OFF being part of that group and that is the concensus within the group. So to fit that into the framework of the topic question the answer is "The people who belong that group are the 'some' who are really better off. But better off than whom?
Than the second group which spends considerable time and effort in sending out recruiting messages which are ignored by virtually all and heeded by only a miserable percentage of group one.
You see, group one have happier challenges in encounters with real people. Nothing like meeting the direct honest and innocent gaze of a sincere enquirer. Better that than languishing under the high control of the fear of man, the anxiety of desiring the favourable opinion of others and the other weapon which Satan has so deftly used - the tyranny of personal pride and stubbornness. .
please be patient on this one because i thought i posted this before and it is on the forum , goodness knows where so this is not repetition for emphasis.
think i have got the hang of it now.
and hopefully haven't got the 'statistics' wrong!.
Please be patient on this one because I thought I posted this before and it is on the forum , goodness knows where so this is not repetition for emphasis. Think I have got the hang of it now. And hopefully haven't got the 'statistics' wrong!
Holly's 'goodbye' letter quickly drew 152 postings as of today. Checking back to the beginning of January, there were only 3 subjects to exceed that number. Two were from 'new chums' , but the winner by far was the "men who lie with men" topic. Is there any reason why that should be so? Please keep your answers brief and to the point (terse is okay, but haven't we learned from Holly's example that a kindly sincerity and patent honesty is more likely to reach the heart?)
its time to leave.
i have had all the answers i need to make a firm decision.
thank you so much everyone for your replies, for talking to me over the last few weeks and for some of the humour.. i believe the jws are right and that they have the truth.
Holly's goodbye letter touched the heart. A genuine person, an example to all. It would be good to try to emulate her kindness. Isn't it great to see someone who deal with the uncertainties of life without knocking others?
If there is sarcasm or irony in response to to this sincere and patently lovely person then other forum members may draw their own conclusions.
