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  The Time Of The End: Could It Be Upon Us?

  by jayhawk1 in

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  it has been so long since i had anything to say on this site.

  but here it goes.... for those who don't know or remember my story... five years ago i walked out of the kingdom hall for the last time.

  it was the weekend after my dad tragically died and just a few weeks after reading sites like freeminds.org.

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  kazar

  Jayhawk,

  I know just how you feel. Although I have been away from the Witnesses for years, it has only been since April of this year when I got on this forum that I have completely stopped believing in their prophecies. But-- the beliefs come back to haunt me. During times like this I get on this forum frequently to keep from going back to them. I will say this to you, your panic attacks will lessen in time, as mine have. The more time you put between you and them, the more your own thinking will take over instead of their ideas. No, the Witnesses are not right! Never have been! They are wrong and always will be! We are going to have disasters of a natural and political kind as long as this planet is here and Jehovah is not bringing Armageddon upon it. Think about it. Even if it were true, would you want to live forever with them? I wouldn't.

  of the (whistling in the dark class)
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  I quit smoking, wish me luck

  by dedpoet in

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  yesterday i quit smoking.

  its something i have been thinking of trying for a while, and i finally got round to it.

  it was a tough day and a sleepless night, i probably had a couple of hours, and i am under no illusions about today being any easier.

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  I do wish you the best of luck! As a smoker myself who wishes I could quit, you have my heartfelt empathy.
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  Jaffacake or anyone else with Seventh Day Adventist experience

  by kazar in

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  jaffacake, i think you were once a seventh day adventist.

  if i am wrong please correct me.

  my best friend is a seventh day adventist.

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  Jaffacake,

  Thanks so much for responding. I apologize for being late in my response to you as I just returned home.

  I have decided to tell her only what you posted that I feel she can handle. I believe she is one who also feels if the Adventists are wrong, where can she go? She is not much of an independent thinker, so I will have to play it by ear.

  As for why she wants to know, I think she wants proof, which of course is impossible. I remember feeling that way when I had doubts and began to fade JW's. She would probably want to quote scripture to you to defend her faith. It's funny! When I was a Witness, she and I never allowed the differences in our beliefs (not much at that) to come between our friendship. We witnessed to each other frequently. I could never see her point of view and vice versa. But, I respect her and like her very much and would not attempt to take her belief from her unless she was ready to let it go. She is a tolerant, kind individual which of course most JW's are not. Several times as recently as last year she attended Jehovah's Witnesses weekly book studies with me and never once said to me that they were wrong. She never criticized. Needless to say the same courtesy was not shown to her by the Witnesses.

  Her son attends the regular Sabbath meeting on Saturday and he is well versed in scripture. They do invite me to their church when they attend.The most they preach to me is how soon the end of this world is coming. I just say, uh huh. She does have doubts, but believes that in time God will clear matters up for her. I remember believing the same thing when I was a Witness.

  I do know that some people cannot go on living very well without a belief system and I don't know if she is one of them or not.

  In fact, while I was gone today, she and I watched a video called Sin City. What a crazy movie. Done in comic book style. Too violent for me, but it was cleverly put together. So my friend is a lot of fun, too. We have known each other since we were kids. I moved away, was gone for 15 years, converted to JW's, she converted to Adventism. We met again five years ago, living in the same neighborhood and renewed our friendship even stronger than ever.

  By the way, were you ever one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  Sorry this post is so verbose. I seem to have forgotten how to be concise.

  Again, thank you so much for your consideration and time.
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  Jaffacake or anyone else with Seventh Day Adventist experience

  by kazar in

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  jaffacake, i think you were once a seventh day adventist.

  if i am wrong please correct me.

  my best friend is a seventh day adventist.

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  My best friend is a Seventh Day Adventist. She has witnessed my exit from the JW's She is very curious how I found out the truth about "the truth". She knows it is from this forum. She does not have a computer. Anyway, I never say anything detrimental about the Adventists. I don't know if she could handle not having that belief so I must be very careful in what I say. Although our conversations seldom consist of theology, she has asked me to ask someone on the board questions about her religion. Depending on what your answers are and how it may affect her, I may candycoat it and tell her I couldn't contact anyone who had previous experience as an Adventist. Her son is also an Adventist. Much more active and zealous than she is. She may want me to respond to you with scriptures from him. She is aware that I do not believe the bible, but her son is not aware of this. If it appears to be too sticky to get into, let me know.

  1.How long were you an Adventist?

  2. Why did you leave?

  3.What is the state of the dead?

  4. Is Christ in the most holy place with the father judging the world?

  These questions sound very JW to me and I am aware that JW's began as a study group with the Millerites.

  So, if you have time to respond, I would appreciate it. If not, that's OK.

  I have to leave for a while, but when I come back I will check the responses.
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  Then, there are the heroes..........

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  posted on thu, sep. 01, 2005

  'that boy is a hero': rescue of family is silver lining for city .

  a 13-year-old boy in biloxi, miss., rescued his entire family -- 12 people, including his twin sister -- during katrina's rage.

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  Thanks for the post. It makes me feel good to know there are still good people who think of others first.
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  Smells that evoke memories...

  by LittleToe in

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  isn't it funny how certain smells can have a strong effect in evoking distant memories?.

  i was reminded of this when i just opened my desk drawer.

  a little earlier today i bought a local newspaper (which is unusual for me) and didn't have time to read it so i stuck it in the drawer.

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  Ingenuous, I have the same problem with school odors. The smell actually makes me anxious. Can't stand it.
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  So, Who are the people that ignore BIG warnings?

  by upside/down in

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  i mean...it doesn't matter what the potential disaster is...there is always a group of morons that think they are invincible and can weather anything mother nature can throw at them.... is this evolutions way of strengthening the strain?

  or is it weeding out the stupid weak?.

  i'm not talking about the sick and poor that can't ...but the healthy fools that stay...and die.. it doesn't matter it's a volcano, tsunami, tornado, forest fire, hurricane, typhoon.....or a big toothed carnivorous animal...there is always the moron who demands to stay and face imminent harm and death...instead of using his brain and just temporarily relocating...to a safer locale.

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  Hillbilly, I agree with your posts.

  However, on a lighter note: I bet the WTS printing presses are working overtime to show the analogy of those who do not heed the warning to get out of Babylon the Great. And, something else I've noted on this board. There is some misspelling on posts. But--never the word, Armageddon. I bet if you asked a person who was never a JW to spell it they could not.. Sooooo, do you think our experience in the Witnesses taught us something? Spelling unusual and seldom used words?
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  What is WRONG with people? (Looters, shooters, et al)

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i'm sitting here in awe, just having read that evacuation helicopters are reporting being shot at in louisiana.

  shot at.. looters are seeing an opportunity to take goods that will probably be destroyed or paid for by insurance anyway.

  it's dirty and nasty and wrong, but i can live with it.

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  Hillbilly

  Sorry but this is not the action of "poor" people, this is the actions of uncivilized selfish lowlives. I just read another excerpt revealing how shots are being fired at rescue helicopters. How foolish is that? Shoot the hand that feeds you. And they wonder why they live in squalor. You may not choose to be poor, but you choose to be a criminal. These people, black and white, are old enough to make the wrong choices and poverty has little to do with it. I grew up poor and never once robbed or hurt someone because of it. If you want a shining example of someone who grew up in the ghetto with nothing and pulled himself above it all try Gen Colin Powell."

  I agree with you on this subject. I lived in DC during the riots after Martin Luther King's death and I know the thug mentality that exists during martial law.
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  To loot, or not to loot-is the point moot?

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  okay, let's say you find yourself in the big easy.

  no lights, no phone, no motorcar, not a single luxury.. you have kids, you have yourself.

  everyone is hungry, and thirsty, and drinking the water will kill you (even walking around in it isn't real safe.).

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  kazar

  Like the others here I would steal food for my family. But, there is a distinction in what I saw being stolen on Television. Many electrical appliances, TVs, etc. I didn't see anyone taking food. Perhaps the media focused on the bad nature of people.
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  Pictures of My Family at The "Holy JW" Wedding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by whyamihere in

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  well here they are...i had a horrible time.

  seirously, i did.

  i was so stressed before the reception i collapsed.

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  Brooke, you look terrific, as usual; and the kids are gorgeous.